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    Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    Given that Joan went on the hustings, and won in a democratic vote of party members against a formidable candidate ... does that put her in a stronger position vis-a-vis Eamon? Who - through no fault of his - was elected unopposed?

    Could this be a source of tension or rivalry between the two further down the road?

    I retrospect, isn't it a pity someone didn't oppose Eamon, just to generate a contest and provide an electorally-based mandate?

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    Yes, she met a challenger, and saw her off. She can now point to her clear 55% mandate when pushing for changes in the party and in policy. Eamon has nothing except the cumulative reluctances of senior party figures.
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    No.
    Gilmore would have got way more than 55% in a head to head againt anyone.
    Otherwise someone would have had a go.
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    Gilmore ran unopposed. That gives him a 100% mandate if you have a glass half full kind of attitude. If anyone else thought that they could muster more support than him, they would've run.

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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny O'Neill
    Given that Joan went on the hustings, and won in a democratic vote of party members against a formidable candidate ... does that put her in a stronger position vis-a-vis Eamon? Who - through no fault of his - was elected unopposed?

    Could this be a source of tension or rivalry between the two further down the road?

    I retrospect, isn't it a pity someone didn't oppose Eamon, just to generate a contest and provide an electorally-based mandate?
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonny O'Neill
    Given that Joan went on the hustings, and won in a democratic vote of party members against a formidable candidate ... does that put her in a stronger position vis-a-vis Eamon? Who - through no fault of his - was elected unopposed?

    Could this be a source of tension or rivalry between the two further down the road?

    I retrospect, isn't it a pity someone didn't oppose Eamon, just to generate a contest and provide an electorally-based mandate?
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    [quote=Ard-Taoiseach]
    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Quote Originally Posted by "Sonny O'Neill":2rzn2xvk
    Given that Joan went on the hustings, and won in a democratic vote of party members against a formidable candidate ... does that put her in a stronger position vis-a-vis Eamon? Who - through no fault of his - was elected unopposed?

    Could this be a source of tension or rivalry between the two further down the road?

    I retrospect, isn't it a pity someone didn't oppose Eamon, just to generate a contest and provide an electorally-based mandate?
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
    Who would get the money? The Labour Youth Drinking Fund?[/quote:2rzn2xvk]

    I'll donate €10 to Labour if they promise not to start any more threads about the Deputy Leadership Election.
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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
    What will we spend the fund on?

    The Rest Home for Sick and Indigent Green Party Parliamentarians?

    The Annual Trevor Sargeant Living on Planet Bertie Award?

    The Eamon 'I am a hot air balloon' Ryan Summer School?

    A new bike for John Gormley so's he can continue to pretend he cycles to the office each day? Note, I didn't say cycles to work

    Paul Gogarty's new book 'Highlights of a Green Politician'?

    Ciarán Cuffe's 'I Have a Green Today' book of vegan recipes?

    Dan, Dan, I am the Man, Boyle's weekend away at the Lismullin Spa and Health Centre?
    John Gormley. The lights may be on, but there's no one at home....

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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    [quote=qtman]
    Quote Originally Posted by Ard-Taoiseach
    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Quote Originally Posted by "Sonny O'Neill":33eaxgmy
    Given that Joan went on the hustings, and won in a democratic vote of party members against a formidable candidate ... does that put her in a stronger position vis-a-vis Eamon? Who - through no fault of his - was elected unopposed?

    Could this be a source of tension or rivalry between the two further down the road?

    I retrospect, isn't it a pity someone didn't oppose Eamon, just to generate a contest and provide an electorally-based mandate?
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
    Who would get the money? The Labour Youth Drinking Fund?
    I'll donate €10 to Labour if they promise not to start any more threads about the Deputy Leadership Election.[/quote:33eaxgmy]

    Mmm, that's a deal that's worth considering.
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    Re: Has Joan a better mandate than Eamon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss Croker
    Quote Originally Posted by qtman
    Can we institute some sort of 10c fine for all new threads on the Labour Deputy Leadership election?
    What will we spend the fund on?

    The Rest Home for Sick and Indigent Green Party Parliamentarians?

    The Annual Trevor Sargeant Living on Planet Bertie Award?

    The Eamon 'I am a hot air balloon' Ryan Summer School?

    A new bike for John Gormley so's he can continue to pretend he cycles to the office each day? Note, I didn't say cycles to work

    Paul Gogarty's new book 'Highlights of a Green Politician'?

    Ciarán Cuffe's 'I Have a Green Today' book of vegan recipes?

    Dan, Dan, I am the Man, Boyle's weekend away at the Lismullin Spa and Health Centre?
    You could, but I'd suggest you spend it on some research and analysis as to why after being in existence for more than 100 years you can't win more than 20 seats.
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