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    smitchy2 smitchy2 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    would you defend reilly
    that is the crunch of it
    labour have defended and supported a guy who got tax breaks and ignored a court judgment
    forget the rest ,
    labour are a big dissapointment
    no different to the greens or the pd's , hanging onto the coatails of power
    Did he personally ignore the court judgement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitchy2 View Post
    Did he personally ignore the court judgement?
    he was ordered by the court to pay
    he didnt
    full stop
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    How any one could think that the oldest party in the state is going to go the way of the Greens is beyond me. Anyone who thinks there will be a total Labour wipeout must be high on crack to reach that conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellach View Post
    How any one could think that the oldest party in the state is going to go the way of the Greens is beyond me. Anyone who thinks there will be a total Labour wipeout must be high on crack to reach that conclusion.
    they wont be wiped out , but they will return to their absolute rump/core vote 15--18 seats
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    smitchy2 smitchy2 is offline

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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    he was ordered by the court to pay
    he didnt
    full stop
    No need to think about the rest of the facts so.
    The only way he personally could of paid this back is if he broke the code of ethics and remained a live shareholder in the investment.
    I am sure you would have been against that as well!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smitchy2 View Post
    No need to think about the rest of the facts so.
    The only way he personally could of paid this back is if he broke the code of ethics and remained a live shareholder in the investment.
    I am sure you would have been against that as well!
    i dont care what he does, but
    he ignored a court order
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    they wont be wiped out , but they will return to their absolute rump/core vote 15--18 seats
    You are mmore than likely correct but there is a possibility it could be less. Are you factoring in retirements and a return of the current floating Labour vote to Fianna Fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellach View Post
    How any one could think that the oldest party in the state is going to go the way of the Greens is beyond me. Anyone who thinks there will be a total Labour wipeout must be high on crack to reach that conclusion.


    I sincerely hope, I am very sincere in this, that this statement of yours does not come back to haunt you.

    I see labour with no more than 10 seats after the next general election. A lot of what constitutes the " leadership " will not run again and only a very small percentage will be elected from those who do run.

    Labour as we would like it to be IS finished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cellach View Post
    How any one could think that the oldest party in the state is going to go the way of the Greens is beyond me. Anyone who thinks there will be a total Labour wipeout must be high on crack to reach that conclusion.
    As one of many members of the Labour Party who has resigned during the last year, I can assure you that it brings me no pleasure to see the loss of the principles of the party. As to being on crack, no, never touched the stuff. Had the odd spliff in my day but that was a long time ago. These days it's over 50s vitamin pills. sigh!

    If I had the energy I would be in there screaming from the rooftops but that's for the new generation and they have no bottle. None!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neiphin View Post
    they wont be wiped out , but they will return to their absolute rump/core vote 15--18 seats
    They will be very lucky to get that if they continue acting the way they are. People remember shouty Gilmore in opposition and liked him, now people feel conned and cheated and soon they will be angry. Fair play to Gilmore, destroying 3 political movements in 1 career takes some work. He has to have been an undercover provo since the start, cos the Shinners are going to be the big winners from this.
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