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    Labour Party - the Anti-Technology party

    So first we have the Labour party introducng the worlds first Internet tax last week. This week it turns out behind closed doors they have decided to implement their own version of SOPA, done so in such a way we the people have no say so and the other parties have no power to stop it.

    Did they miss the worldwide outrage when America tried this? Did they not see the blackouts across the web? The tech companies that fought against this?

    Do they really think if this passes it will not directly effect EVERY technology company in Ireland?

    Labour has shown themselves to be either anti-technology, or so fecking clueless and out of touch with what's happening in the world that they are willing to tank the only industry in our country which is actually doing alright.

    If this passes watch how long it takes for Google, Microsoft, Facebook, and all of the other major tech companies which fought against the American version to relocate to a more Internet friendly country in the EU.

    Why does the Labour party hate the Internet?

    They are the new Luddites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
    Why does the Labour party hate the Internet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post

    Why does the Labour party hate the Internet?

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    Contining on with their assualt on the Internet we have two Labour Minsters today making statements attacking the Internet which were equally as shocking as they were stupid.

    Quinn says online media as accountable as traditional media - The Irish Times - Fri, Feb 03, 2012

    ONLINE MEDIA must be “prepared to embrace the same levels of accountability as traditional media”, the Minister for Education has told University of Limerick journalism students.

    Ruairí Quinn said yesterday he would be worried if traditional media, such as newspapers, were to collapse against the threat of online and social media.

    “The internet is now one of two major threats to the media, especially and essentially newspapers."

    ...

    Mr Quinn also said he would like to see “a discussion about how the powers of the Press Council and Press Ombudsman might be strengthened” and “how their remit be extended to cover online media”.
    Not to be outdone Labour Minister Pat Rabbitte followed later with this...

    Rabbitte set to examine 'difficult' area of online defamation | BreakingNews.ie

    Minister for Communications Pat Rabbitte said today that he hopes online media will be covered by the Defamation Act in the future.

    Addressing a conference on media diversity in Dublin, Pat Rabbitte said our defamation laws have yet to come to terms with the rise and proliferation of new media.

    The Press Council, which regulates the print media, is investigating whether some sectors of the online media will volunteer to come under the auspices of the Defamation Act.
    So the Labour party, not content with just passing draconian legislation that will force all ISPs to monitor everyone is now trying to stifle all online speech by institution the same draconian legislation which governs defamation in Ireland.

    Is it just me or is the Labour party looking more and more like they have been taking their cues from Stalin?

    Monitor everyone, make it illegal to talk without government permission, whats next? CCTV cameras in every town centre? Oh wait...
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    The Irish Labour Party - Fighting the internet, and defending the Seanie Bondholders.

    It is either Labour's way, or da intornet's way.
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    Can you name a socialist state where the people are allowed freedom of speech?

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    Is that why there are so few Labour supporters posting on this website these days? (either that or their shame that a poor programme for government was negotiated and that their red line election promises have been discarded ever since).

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    The Labour Party are really starting to scare me.
    They are fixated on using their time in Politics to dismantle Catholic Ethos and the Infrastructure of Free Speech.
    There are a lot of other areas that require urgent attention.
    They are going for soft targets-the geeks and the priests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
    Contining on with their assualt on the Internet we have two Labour Minsters today making statements attacking the Internet which were equally as shocking as they were stupid.

    Quinn says online media as accountable as traditional media - The Irish Times - Fri, Feb 03, 2012



    Not to be outdone Labour Minister Pat Rabbitte followed later with this...

    Rabbitte set to examine 'difficult' area of online defamation | BreakingNews.ie



    So the Labour party, not content with just passing draconian legislation that will force all ISPs to monitor everyone is now trying to stifle all online speech by institution the same draconian legislation which governs defamation in Ireland.

    Is it just me or is the Labour party looking more and more like they have been taking their cues from Stalin?

    Monitor everyone, make it illegal to talk without government permission, whats next? CCTV cameras in every town centre? Oh wait...
    The country is phucking broke, and the plump bunny has decided that it is time to launch a crusade to prevent intellectual debate oiutside of the media organizations that refused to report the deceit in progress in the Ahern years.

    The problem with this country IS the Defamation Law.

    But now you will get sites in othe countries being used by Irish bloggers so that they communicate the same thing that they are allowed speak in the street outside, but which they cannot comment about online, because of Plump Bunny has laws for regulate the internet.

    Does Rabbitte know how utterly stupid and absurd the whole thing will become ?

    They still can't regulate the banks and they own them - how are these turkeys going to regulate the internet ????

    The Labour Party are actually fighting the internet.

    CaptainStern - you are correct. These Champagne socialists are completely out of touch with the people. They are far too eager to serve the establishment.

    And they have no tolerance for dissent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSternn View Post
    Contining on with their assualt on the Internet we have two Labour Minsters today making statements attacking the Internet which were equally as shocking as they were stupid.

    Quinn says online media as accountable as traditional media - The Irish Times - Fri, Feb 03, 2012
    So you think that onlone and print media should have different rules as to accountability? That's ludicrous. It's ludicrous for many reasons. Here are just a couple:

    Traditional print and broadcst media are obliged to record wht they have printed and/or broadcast for reasons of potential libel. This isn't yet fully formalised in internet-based media. Indeed we have seenn in the recent past, both the Irish Times and the Independent redact or entirely withdraw internet-based articles after they realised that they could be actionable. In their other manifestation as printed newspapers they cannot do this so easily, and libel becomes easier to establish. On top of that, internet publication can be copied and pasted (within Fair Use restrictions), which means that a libellous or scurrilous story can very swiftly pass from the control of the people who published it, leading to its reappearance all over the 'net irrespective of whether the quoted material has since been redacted.
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    Not to be outdone Labour Minister Pat Rabbitte followed later with this...

    Rabbitte set to examine 'difficult' area of online defamation | BreakingNews.ie

    So the Labour party, not content with just passing draconian legislation that will force all ISPs to monitor everyone is now trying to stifle all online speech by institution the same draconian legislation which governs defamation in Ireland.
    Nope. It appears that they are attempting to ensure that all media operate within similar legal restraints and constraints and that people will be able to defend their name and reputation without lies about them speading throughout the internet.
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    Is it just me or is the Labour party looking more and more like they have been taking their cues from Stalin?
    That's sort of a version of a Godwin.
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    Monitor everyone,
    Who's "monitoring everyone"? The ideal scheme just gives people redress if they are defamed, libelled or otherwise damaged through lies being told about them.
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    make it illegal to talk without government permission,
    Show me where it says that Government permission will be needed to "talk". There has always been a restriction on public discussion if it it damages someone else's reputation. There is no restriction on what you say in private. The internet is not provate.
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    whats next? CCTV cameras in every town centre? Oh wait...
    I don't like CCTV myself but then there's none around where I live. That's no accident.

    Your post is scare-mongering.

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