Listening to the Sunday Business Programme the Red C poll organisation spokesman said a FF-Lab coalition was the most likely outcome....They are in a position to be in the know.
He said that 'If Pat Rabbitte has any integrity he could'nt possibly stand over such a deal' .
This confirms what I heard last night that Labour are getting ready to shaft Pat Rabbitte and ditch the FG pact, even before the polls open.
at this stage the labour grassroots are seeing through the contract.
i think its time for labour to make a change. Either rabbitte soffens to Ahern or rabbitte goes.
If, as it seems clear that it is the only option then Lab will do a deal with FF and I expect to have Tanaiste Howlin instead of Tanaiste Rabbitte. I think the only way Rabbitte will do a deal with FF is if Bertie isn't Leader - i dont think he will do a deal with Cowen - might take somebody like Martin
And what would either of you know about the Labour "Grassroots"?
If there is a hung dail Labour will simply not be propping up Fianna Fail. End of story. Another election perhaps, or else FF can go into coalition with Sinn Fein, or even FG.
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Nah, if Lab have to do a deal with FF they will, just look at their campaign, they are power hungry and have dropped anything remotely Labour to get it, the Mulligar pact will go as well if needs be with a rout of the stickies from the leadership.
Where is the FF/SF option coming from?Originally Posted by Wolverine
These parties are fishing in the same seat pool. If one goes up, the other goes down. Between them, they will have a max of 78 seats, and that's on a really good day for SF.
The only way to change the world is to win elections.
The Labour grassroots, one elected representative and two long term activists in my town were saying that a FF-Lab coalition would be the logical outcome and would be done by removing Rabitte and his hated spin doctor friend from their Ely place bunker. The dogs in the street know what many Labour grass-roots people think about the stickies in their midst. Rabbitte destroys everything he has ever been involved in....The average Labour (ie non-sticky) activist is instinctively more comfortable with FF than FG...Howlin will be the man who will make the deal...watch this space....
Bollocks - Sinn Fein are hardly ones to lecture us on being power hungry - they want to get into bed with anyone.
I don't see the party having dropped anything for this election, but again SF are hardly ones to talk about selling out on their principles. The whole peace process is the story of Sinn Fein selling out one step at a time!
Yeah anti-SF rant aside.....So you don't deny that there is a ferment within Labour ranks with a strong voice being heard from the constituencies that a FF-Lab coalition would be a great outcome...
Even those in Labour who tried to keep the door open at the Conference are now saying it would be political suicide to ally with FF. It would be worse than the backlash in the 90's because we now know that the next few months will be dominated outside the Dáil by the tribunals with Bertie in a leading role.Apart from the media, the only people I know wishing for a FF- Lab pact are desperate FF ers who see the writing on the wall. Long may they dream !
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