Dick Spring's nephew Arthur to run for Labour in Kerry North – West Limerick

[Tomas Mor]

Simply answer the open questions

Your attempts to detract and distract merely confirms that the Springs are in reality more FF than Labour.

(ps Tomas, re your 'early rising' 8:30am might be considered early for 'Team Dick' but most hard working tax payers are on the go by 6am)

Will yez answer the question, why is Spring being targetted by you Sinners. As I keep repeating compared to Maritime Martin he is an orator. As for working in a bank, ask the same question off Shay Brennan who held a high position in Anglo Irish and will be FF candidate in Dublin by election. Or Goorch Cooper , all worked for toxic banks. And I forgot to mention that in return for Seanie promoting Shay Brennan in Anglo, his dad the late Seamus Brennan, minister for Sincerity, appointed Seanie to a semi State Board. Fact.

As for time I am an early riser in Manhattan,where I curse every day the country of my birth and also where I am forced to live, while clowns at home argue over nothing and Biffo is leader Obama style to some FFers.

[redhead101]

Once again we ask for full disclosure

You insinuate there is a smoking gun, but still you haven't actually produced it.

Either there is no smoking gun, (i.e you are a spoofer), or you don't have the guts to produce it, (i.e. you are a coward).

[Tomas Mor]

You will be ignored by me on this thread.

Anyone that has read my posts here would know that I am not a shinner.

If you are too ignorant to read my posts I will reciprocate.

Some bit of Relief at last ! Deo gratias.

[Red_93]

Why are you defending someone you dont know?

Why are you attacking someone you don't know?

I am a quick judge and my calls are correct

Who says?

These Spring buckos are really more FF than Labour, the Springs links to Anglo Irish Bank only adds to this perception

He had a job there, if this is your logic then you should go round and picket the houses of every Abglo employee.

You should educate yourself about the Puppeteer.....

Critics of Dick Spring, have described him as a Champagne socialist due to his choice of the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel when staying in New York as Foreign Minister, instead of staying in the then Irish-owned Fitzpatrick Hotel.

Spring received a directorship appointment to the Irish state telecom enterprise, Eircom, in advance of the scheduled privatisation. As leader of a left of centre party, this was to endorse the privatization, and gain consent from the labour unions to the privatisation plan. However the privatisation was a financial disaster for members of the public, who became ordinary shareholders in the privatisation process. Spring became the target for much of the discontent. Spring's low work involvement, and generous remuneration package, was openly described as 'scandalous', by shareholder advocate Senator Shane Ross.

Spring continues to hold a directorship, with the Financial Services firm FEXCO, based in Killorglin, County Kerry.

Labour my hole!

Yes, well that is his uncle, not him. You wouldn't blame Goldie Ferris for Beardies knee cappings/bombings/viscious murders of innocent people/bank robberies, would you? Fact is, AJS contested 1 election, and did very well, that is the best indicator of his abilities at present.

[Craiced]

Why are you attacking someone you don't know?

I'm not attacking him personally. He is probably a nice guy who likes easy listening music and promotes world peace. I am just passing comment on a speech of his, which is in the public domain. Until he represents another side of himself, that is all i have to go on, and quite clearly he is a political lightweight.

The funny part is how Labour Party hacks continually keep this thread alive by calling people shinners and trying to defend the indefensible and thus causing further embarrassment to those with a genuine interest in getting AJS elected. (When in a hole stop digging!)

Seriously this thread would be dead long ago were it not for Tomas Mor and his JimCorr.com like conspiracy theories.

Tomas, I'm not a shinner, I’m not from Kerry, I’m just calling it like I see it. My only interest in any of this is formulating odds for the next general election.
http://www.politics.ie/elections/101...ml#post2595996

Thank you for your input. I have learnt loads. Spring is the lay of the next general election!

[livingstone]

Quote:
Originally Posted by livingstone
Whatever about Coughlan and Cowen - Lenihan and Sherlock I think are more than capable in their own rights and I certainly don't agree with the former very often. Likewise, Dick Spring was well capable in his own right.

Ultimately nepotism means very little when its the people who decide. If the people decide they want a former TD's nephew as a current TD, then that's their perogative. And I'd say that even when Ferris Junior runs ;-)
Ah look who has resurfaced! Livingstone!


You cant hit and run livingstone, you owe me answers from a few pages backs on this thread...

http://www.politics.ie/2614344-post217.html



Quote:
Originally Posted by livingstone
So, aside from stumbling over a couple of words (which at times sounded like a mild stammer) and saying disadvantaged instead of advantaged what precisely is wrong with this? When you leave out the selective transcribing which suggests that the poster doesn't really get the concept of punctuation.
You are so wrong livingstone, there were many major mistakes delivered by Arthur Spring at The Labour Party Conference;

1.) 'this is not a Government that is serious about education we’re the Government that’s serious about education'

2.) 'helping kids that are the least disadvantaged in Society'

3.) 'the Minister for Finance at one time that brought employment to an ever decreasing low'

4.) 'it is commonly acknowledged that our services are nothing shy of deplorable when compared with the rest of Europe'
Where? Romania? Slovenia? Latvia? Estonia? Lithuania?

5.) 'I'm happy to sanction'....


Selective transcribing? I don't think so livingstone - Read and simultaneously listen, the provided transcription was produced by a legal service for me.

It is exactly what Arthur Spring SAID.

You FAIL when you attempt to say it is inaccurate.

Its a pity that Arthur Springs CV wasnt as exact as the transcription of his speech at The Labour Party Conference

Ehm, I replied to that rubbish here http://www.politics.ie/labour/126075...merick-22.html

[Red_93]

I'm not attacking him personally. He is probably a nice guy who likes easy listening music and promotes world peace. I am just passing comment on a speech of his, which is in the public domain. Until he represents another side of himself, that is all i have to go on, and quite clearly he is a political lightweight.

Oh no, there's nothing wrong with attacking or finding fault with him, that was just a response to a question about why I was defending someone I didn't know. If you can attack someone you don't know surely the reverse is true aswell.

[pjoz]

To be honest I cant see what all the fuss is about. Havent seen any real SFer laying into Spring here, seems to be others trying to stoke it up. For what its worth I dont think the SF seat is in much danger. FF would be glad to promote the idea that its a slug between Labour and Sinn Fein for the final seat. Don't actually think it will be.

The way I see it panning out is Ferris around the 9000 mark, maybe slightly more even dependent on turnout.That could top the poll the poll dependent on FG split.Deenihan will definitely make it back and the final seat I see being between labour and FF. If ff are straved of tranfers from the opposition parties like you'd hope they will be labour could take the seat.

The attention of the opposition parties should really be turned on ousting FF from seats like this where they are under severe pressure to hold, rather than taking the traditional approach of scapping amongst themselves for the left over crumbs.

[Red_93]

To be honest I cant see what all the fuss is about. Havent seen any real SFer laying into Spring here, seems to be others trying to stoke it up. For what its worth I dont think the SF seat is in much danger. FF would be glad to promote the idea that its a slug between Labour and Sinn Fein for the final seat. Don't actually think it will be.

The way I see it panning out is Ferris around the 9000 mark, maybe slightly more even dependent on turnout.That could top the poll the poll dependent on FG split.Deenihan will definitely make it back and the final seat I see being between labour and FF. If ff are straved of tranfers from the opposition parties like you'd hope they will be labour could take the seat.

The attention of the opposition parties should really be turned on ousting FF from seats like this where they are under severe pressure to hold, rather than taking the traditional approach of scapping amongst themselves for the left over crumbs.

I actually think labour and SF should work together in certain constituencies in order to keep ff from keeping seats and FG from gaining them. For example, Kerry North, Dublin Mid West and Cavan Monaghan. In Kerry North, there is a possibility of a seat each. In Dublin Mid west there is little possibility of a sinn fein seat but if sf transfer to labour in very heavy numbers there could be a second labour seat. Likewise in Cavan Monaghan there is little chance of a labour seat but if labour transfer to sinn fein there may well be 2 sf seats there.