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About LinkBacksyou could throw mary lou into that mix too.Originally Posted by Harmonica
i cant remember if she ever was a TD
you could throw mary lou into that mix too.
i cant remember if she ever was a TD
Some of my mates in DSe not too impressed with Quinn when they heard he claimed and got the artists tax exemption for his memoirs. He was initially turned down but appealed and won. From a wealthy background plus the big Dail salary yet still fought for this tax perk. As did fellow socialist bertie.
Ruari is 65 and my mates say time to call it a day, take the big pension and let in new blood. nephew Oisin is well regarded and charming on the doorstep apparently.
Perhaps we can keep this thread just for Labour in DSE. Other Labour threads can perhaps merit there own stand-alone discussion.
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Really -that very interesting.....kinda confirms the rumours I've heard in my own constituency............scuttles off to the scheming room..............
Maybe I'm mixing him up with someone else, but does Humphreys post here ?
Gender quota's don't apply under the new standing orders for General Election candidate selection but can be taken into account in the recommendations but take it from me that they won't apply.
At the DSE AGM last night, Ruairi Quinn TD, Cllr Kevin Humphries and Senator Ivana Bacik all declared that they would be going forward looking for a GE nomination.
Under the new rules a Candidate Selection Board of three personal will be formed for DSE (as for all constituencies) and will seek imput from all members of the constituency, plus all elected representatives in that area. Potential candidates can put themselves forward and the CSB will make a recommendation to the Organisational Sub-committee of the Labour party who can further amend this report if they wish- this will recommend how many candidates to run and who should be allowed go forward to a selection convention. This report will be presented to the Constituency concerned at a constituency council where all members can attend and a selection convention will take place 21 days later.
All Oirechtas members get the automatic right to go through the CSB and put themselves forward for selection. Therefore only Cllr Humphreys will have to mount this hurdle though there is no doubt that he will having topped the poll in SEIC and taking in a running mate.
For the 2007 GE there was a selection convention where both Quinn and Humphreys went forward, only 1 candidate being selected, Quinn got just over 100 votes, Humphreys got just over 90 if i recall correctly. To vote in the Selection Convention, a member must be paid up and a member for at least 6 months, whether at branch or constituency level.
One would expect that both Quinn and Humphreys will win this but who knows what will happen, indeed any 2 of the 3 could be selected including a Humphreys/bacik ticket. Two candidates will be selected, Labour having won 50% of the seats in the locals in the LEAs in this area.
The clause that Oireachtas members automatically can go forward for selection means that senators like Ivana get a bye through the CSB.
This has had some unintended consequences such as in DSE where Ivana, by joining the Labour group can get through the CSB automatically, and also for Dominic Hannigan who if he wishes due to redrawn borders between Meath East and Louth can go forward in Louth.
Also, Oisin Quinn is a nephew of Ruairi's, not a son.
'I am not one of those who in expressing opinions confine themselves to facts' -Mark Twain
The thought of that Ivana wan, with her oversized ego and sense of entitlement, lecturing us ordinary folk from the Dail chamber is enough to make one distinctly unwell.
Did she give any commitment to Dublin Central when she ran less than 12 months ago? I'd be asking her if she runs what's her commitment to DSE if she is not successful, or is she eying up Dublin south Dun Laoire? Humpreys is a hard worker and if he ran as an Ind he could do well, it would be tough to get elected but there are working class pockets in DSE and SF are in trouble, and she is not a good candidate and he could play the Bernie Malone ticket, robbed of the nomination by a blow in! and even better if gender balancing is thrown in!
Interesting to see how Bacik would get on, although Kevin Humphreys is a great councillor and wold be deserving of the nomination. Any word on second FG candidates?
It'll be interesting to see how this one pans out. Quinn is the great big paperweight atop this constituency - if he decisively rows in behind either Humphries of Bacik, it'll be hard to stop.
2 seats is surprisingly achievable for Labour here, though excellent candidate selection is essential. For my money, I think Humphries is the better for maximising seat maximisation. Bacik may be able to generate more media attention, but the less-engaged 'social issues' Labour voter already has a recognisable face in Quinn. Humphries is likely to have more appeal to traditional Labour voters, working-class households (they do exist in DSE) and - crucially - disillusioned FFers, who'll appreciate his goundwork over the years. With Quinn hoovering up the ticked-off Greens, and Humphries getting FF's soft vote (hopefully also heading off any strong SF challenge), I'd say they 'll have just enough to keep both candidates ahead of FG candidate number 2 - who'll presumably be the other one in the running for Gormley's seat.
Bacik and Quinn, despite the gender difference, are fishing in much the same pond voter-wise: social liberals with less focus on economic redistribution. Bacik is smart and articulate, and I'm probably more interested in seeing how she'll fare as a T.D. than I am in Humphries, but this not the best electoral use for her. Unless Gilmore/HQ really comes down heavy on this (and even if they do) I can see her out of the Dáil for another five years.
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