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    Quote Originally Posted by an innocent abroad View Post
    Ask labour will they clean up the poverty industry? That's what a lot of people will be watching at community level. labour and the shinner's have a vested interest in this sector. read about the Dublin innercity partnership report. "The poor will allway's be with us." of course they will, that's why political clinics are only found in working class communities Amazing after all the work this so called empowering of the poor organisation ( D.I.C.p.) has done, they still have to go to political clinic's to get their Rights! and have you read about the salaries? the top up's? and expense's? and like most boards in this sector, they hadn't a clue! of course not, who want's people on a board who actually know's what's going on! you vote funding for my organisation and I'll vote for funding for your's!
    DICP have big SF-supporting presence among the better paid staff (but not members AFAIK), not aware of any Labour supporters working for it above the lower paid staff. Certainly LP supporters in other groups were among those attacking DICP for several years, so I doubt they are pinning any hopes on Labour getting back in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    Actually AIA, this deservere a thread of its own, and not here with Bacik, mind I think your inference, if it is there, is correct, it is exactly the type of quango Bacik and Labour love, as well as Vincent Browne and FF of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by west'sawake View Post
    Really it's time for volunteerism, for community gorps, part supported by the State and charitable status to take over. Demolish these bloody quangoes.
    Public sector workers would fully support you my friend, quangos are simply social welfare for the rich and connected and a barrier to decision making, responsibility and accountability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonpartyboy View Post
    Public sector workers would fully support you my friend, quangos are simply social welfare for the rich and connected and a barrier to decision making, responsibility and accountability.
    Non Party boy, well put, thanks, and sorry for the typos.

    Dotski, should I give you the benefit of the doubt, that Labour doesn't love quangoes, I could be wrong but they are a kind of democratic centralism loved by the reverse takeover of Labour by D.L. Their modus operandi is: if the ideology within cannot be approved at the ballot box, the agenda can be implemented in other ways, by the smaller party wagging the tail of the bigger party. Or, through the tentacles of so called social partnership, where euphemisms such as: civil society, affective equality, implementation bodies, all covers for unaccountable, unelected (and unelectable) quangoes, and also for buck stopping, where everyone blames everyone else when things go wrong or it's noone's fault. FF blame the International situation or the U.S.banks, the social partners who supped with FF gorging themselves on windfall but finite tax revenues from the bubble, blame FF, no one dares blame themselves for being party of the mad merry go round, or for joining the Euro and having ridiculously low interest rates and deregulated capital markets when the economy was already firing on all cylenders.

    I really fear for this country, the political establishment, the social partners, and the E.U have been found out, the great hybrid of crony capitalism, closed shops, corporatism, and welfare marginalisation has failed, and as of now I really don't see anyone offering anything new. No political saviour with righteous anger to turf the thieves out of the political temple.
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