What do you think of this? I feel that only the Gardai should have the power to compel the release of such information and that we are on a slippery slope if we let companies compel it based on hearsay.
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/irelan ... MUSIC.html
Could you give us the gist of it?
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i.e. we're not subscribed to Ireland.com so we've no idea what that article says.
Didn't the companies say that they'd press criminal charges if the internet service providers refused to give names?
Internet service providers are refusing to provide the music industry with the names of customers accused of illegally sharing music on the internet.Originally Posted by Carrier
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But Eircom and BT Ireland confirmed yesterday that this customer data was protected under the Data Protection Act and they would not be giving the names to Irma.
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Irma will now have to seek injunctions from the High Court to compel the service providers to supply the information they need to prosecute.
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Better the courts than the cops, IMHO.
How could Heisenberg be sure that Schroedinger had a cat?
Thats good to hear. Speaking of Data Protection, I notice McDowells plans to get the EU to introduce an EU wide Data Protection directive which would keep details of all phone calls and e-mails on record for 3 years to be accessed at the governments leisure have been shelved. He knew there would be opposittion to it if he simply introduced it through the Oireachtas so he had the idea to suggest it at EU level, get it through and when it was criticised (inevitably), he could say it had nothing to do with him. Civil Liberties aren't to be compromised to industry, like Irma. Intellectual Property being stolen is one thing, but I'll be damned if they do it at my expense. And surely, if IRMA know the 17 uploaders, they have their names, addresses, locations and presumably could get a warrant to get the Guards to seize computers. Why would they need to get this info from the ISP's?
Greatest forest in the history of trees.
They don't apparently know the names. They may have ip addresses and want the isp to put names on these.
It seems that the music industry wants to go on a fishing expedition. They have IP addresses and maybe usernames but little else.
An injunction would have to be obeyed by the ISPs.
But I don't think that an injunction can be granted without pretty solid evidence that the suspected user really has been ripping off copyright material.
And the ISPs will be waiting for the moment when an injunction leads to a false prosecution or accusation, e.g. against someone who shuffles off on a technicality or whose computer has been replaced. Then the ISPs will scream blue murder when the next injunction is moved in the High Court, and the Court may just decide that fishing expeditions, even those targetting multi-thousand-downloaders, are not an acceptable use of the court's equitable jurisdiction, especially since it places quite an administrative burden on the ISPs.
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Seanod can post full Irish News articles that are copyright, but I can't post this in full, Conor?<Moderated by Conor. Please do not post copyright material>
Why?
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Moderators can't read everything. It's not a full-time job and there are thousands of words posted up daily.
So Conor may have seen the copyright material but not elsewhere. He mightn't even see your question here, which is why I'm answering it before going off to look to see if Seánod did post copyright material.
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