Atheists Ireland plan to commit a blasphemous outrage this Saturday: Morning Ireland

[Vega1447]

God no, that is like asking the Animal rights movement to condemn Halal butchery or the broader left to demand that hate preaching is stopped in mosques or God forbid that forced marriages etc are wrong. Thing is they know that the muslims would kick their D4 butts all the way home, where as some 88 year old granny coming out of mass is not a threat, besides most of them are probably from christian backgrounds so it more an act of rebellion against their parents rather than anything else.

And would it be a Good Thing for

the muslims [to] kick their D4 butts all the way home

??

Sounds like you are (indirectly) cheering them (Muslims) on?

[Vega1447]

And you have to exercise that right? Do you exercise your right to tell old people they are going to die soon, or fat ugly people that they're hideous to look at? Bearing in mind that it's just your subjective perception? Honestly?

TA: AI plan an act of public blasphemy to expose the idiotic nature of this law.

If is is insulting to Imaginary Persons, as distinct from insulting to the people who believe in them, would you object?

[Horses]

And you have to exercise that right? Do you exercise your right to tell old people they are going to die soon, or fat ugly people that they're hideous to look at? Bearing in mind that it's just your subjective perception? Honestly?

you really want to live in a society where a person can be imprisoned for having a thought crime?

[imokyrok]

This law has to be challenged. If that requires saying a few nasty words then so be it. Suppression of free speech is far far more dangerous than anything AI could dream up.

[Eorna]

And would it be a Good Thing for
??

Sounds like you are (indirectly) cheering them (Muslims) on?

I am pointing out that the forementioned group going for the soft options, it is much easier to bully old people after Mass or target their beliefs with offensive slogans or posters etc, than it would be for these "activists" to re-publish the danish cartoons of Mohammed or brandish them outside a mosque as a free speech activity. I think that their is a lot of double standards in the left, it seems to have degenerated in to a protest movement for righteous 20 somethings rather than a real force for change.

[toxic avenger]

you really want to live in a society where a person can be imprisoned for having a thought crime?

Because that has anything to do with the question I asked you????? Despite the fact that only a few posts above I stated quite clearly that I opposed this legislation? I asked you not about your right to say this stuff, but about whether you need to exercise the right.

[Captain Con O'Sullivan]

Perhaps a statue to Dermot Ahern with a life size version of him kneeling to a priest would be more suitable. Kneeling very close.

[Demotruk]

I am pointing out that the forementioned group going for the soft options, it is much easier to bully old people after Mass or target their beliefs with offensive slogans or posters etc, than it would be for these "activists" to re-publish the danish cartoons of Mohammed or brandish them outside a mosque as a free speech activity. I think that their is a lot of double standards in the left, it seems to have degenerated in to a protest movement for righteous 20 somethings rather than a real force for change.

What on Earth are you talking about? When has AI been bullying old people after mass?

[Horses]

Because that has anything to do with the question I asked you????? Despite the fact that only a few posts above I stated quite clearly that I opposed this legislation? I asked you not about your right to say this stuff, but about whether you need to exercise the right.

so you can have a right so long as you never use it?

[Vega1447]

I am pointing out that the forementioned group going for the soft options, it is much easier to bully old people after Mass or target their beliefs with offensive slogans or posters etc, than it would be for these "activists" to re-publish the danish cartoons of Mohammed or brandish them outside a mosque as a free speech activity. I think that their is a lot of double standards in the left, it seems to have degenerated in to a protest movement for righteous 20 somethings rather than a real force for change.

You have created a straw man argument here:

• *No one* has proposed that atheists "bully old people after Mass" or bully Muslims outside their mosque either.
  
• *All* the bullying on this thread is coming from (one or two) self-declared believers.

Let me state my position.

Out of common courtesy I would generally avoid challenging other people's beliefs, no matter how absurd.

On the other hand when believers through the State seek privileged protection for *their* opinions and threaten to prosecute me if I dare to publicly disrespect them, courtesy takes second place to the right to free speech.

Now where do *you* stand?