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    I think Miley from Glenroe exclaimed it best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mar Tweedy View Post
    @micknugent: Average of six TDs in Dail for duration of debate on defamation/blasphemy bill

    What a great democracy we have.
    FFS do you know the first thing about how the Dáil works?

    Of course they aren't sitting in the chamber. This isn't the 19th century. TDs don't have to be sitting in the chamber anymore to follow a debate. They have televisions in their offices which show the debate.

    They can follow the Dáil debate and the Seanad debate [/i]and[/i] all the committees from their office simply through flicking the channels.

    Why the hell would the plonk themselves in the chamber, where the accoustics are crap and they can do nothing other than sit there for hours until their time comes around to speak, when they can follow the debate from their office? They also get the blacks of debates so that if they cannot follow the debate they can read up later on what was said.

    This week large numbers of TDs are also involved in committee meetings and would many would have been at committees. They cannot be two places at once.

    It is bad enough when people with little understanding of the legislative process don't understand that people no longer have to physically be in a chamber to follow a debate. But you'd think posters on a political website would know.

    Obviously not!
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    While I am very much against this becoming law, ridicules as it is, I do wonder if anyone will ever be brought before a court over it. It's probably due to join quite a lot of other Irish laws in the 'past-to-make-it-seem-like-we're-doing-something-but-no-one-is-going-to-be-bothered-to-enforce-it' pile.

    Although it would always be open to some religious nut-job to try and get someone prosecuted over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    While I am very much against this becoming law, ridicules as it is, I do wonder if anyone will ever be brought before a court over it. It's probably due to join quite a lot of other Irish laws in the 'past-to-make-it-seem-like-we're-doing-something-but-no-one-is-going-to-be-bothered-to-enforce-it' pile.

    Although it would always be open to some religious nut-job to try and get someone prosecuted over it.
    Or some childish nut job yearning to be the first to defame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    Or some childish nut job yearning to be the first to defame.
    That, too, is a strong possibility. But at least they would be engaging in their own bit of 'childishness' for a noble cause; that of freedom of speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    That, too, is a strong possibility. But at least they would be engaging in their own bit of 'childishness' for a noble cause; that of freedom of speech.
    Sure why don't be all do that in the interest of freedom of speech - know any good Jew/Muslim/Black/Women/Homosexual jokes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    Sure why don't be all do that in the interest of freedom of speech - know any good Jew/Muslim/Black/Women/Homosexual jokes?
    It is not an imperative of free speech that one be, of necessity, vulgar or ill-mannered. Surely you understand this.

    However, if one chooses, being ill-mannered and vulgar, to engage in such 'jokes' then, yes, one ought to be free to do so. It is not for the state to impose such values on citizens, else no virtue would bestow itself on the well-mannered and non-vulgar person.

    One, of course, ought to be able to air ones true feelings about something as important as religion without fear of repression by the state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Smiley View Post
    I think Miley from Glenroe exclaimed it best.
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    Or some childish nut job yearning to be the first to defame.
    Defame

    the meaning of defame

    to harm the reputation of by libel or slander
    defame - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary

    people dont need to defame islam

    because while islam claims to be a religion of peace

    actions speak louder than words

    islam had done enough to defame that very claim to be a so called religion of peace





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