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    Quote Originally Posted by cavok View Post
    Thank you for your explanation.

    I know there is always more to a story than the NUJ / Media ever feed us.

    God rest Brendan and God bless your family.
    What's really sad in the larger picture is that yet again we have another extraordinary piece of judicial insanity, of flagrant societal unfairness, and most posters are more interested in discussing the LLS, ouija boards, magpies, a fifty cent tip, allegedly unemployed Nigerians, house prices and so on. I'm guilty of participating too.

    The irony of it all is that injustice is at the root of every post.
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    Meh...just bumping this thread up to see if we give a shyte.
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    It's worth mentioning that the rot goes on after the trial--into the prisons.


    A young man was foully killed because he was locked up all night with a madman, and yet the Governor of Mountjoy Lonergan doesn't resign, and our lousy Fianna Fail the Rat Pack government fails to give him the kick out the door that he deserves.

    If this useless governor can't protect the citizens of Ireland who are placed in his care he should get the phuc out of his job and stop collecting a fat salary for a job badly done.

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    Thanks for the bump there Kev.

    I'm lost for words. Suffice to say that I wish the Cunningham family well in their fight against this awful injustice.

    Brendan's killing followed by his father's hastened demise would be too much of a burden to begin with but to have to cope with this ensuig trial and subsequent disgraceful decision is heartwrenching. I'm not a lock em up and throw away the key merchant but if there ever was a case where a far more severe custodial sentence is warranted then this is it.

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    It is always sad when a tragedy causes division and upset in families and communities, but the criminal justice system seeks to wade through all the variables and come to a fair resolution. In this case, the jury and the judge have given their verdict and given a sentence, which the judge, being cognitive of all the facts, has felt to be the correct one. I am sure that Mr. Cunningham feels bitter, but I wonder if his bitterness is blinding him to the rationale for this judgment. It does seem lenient, if one sees it as an open and shut case of death caused by assault, however we must look at all the other variables. This poor man was ill, due to his alcoholism, but his son also suffered as a direct result thereof. It is certainly not right, that he kill his father, but we are not to know, if the pressure and stress, which this poor young man already faced as a carer, was then exacerbated by the seemingly wholly irresponsible behaviour of his father. I would also question how the rest of the family treated poor young Tommy. From the post from his brother, it would appear that the family was resentful and unforthcoming to this troubled young man. Whilst his grandparents were there, the wider family seems to have been sniping as to his position and not being part of a wider community of recovery.

    Now, we have his family openly slandering and defaming this young man, who has a right to begin again. The fact that he is sleeping in homeless accommodation is a sad indictment of the failure of society and indeed his wider family to help him and prevent him from losing control over his life.
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    Bump, I can't believe there is no more reaction to this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parakeet View Post
    It is always sad when a tragedy causes division and upset in families and communities, but the criminal justice system seeks to wade through all the variables and come to a fair resolution. In this case, the jury and the judge have given their verdict and given a sentence, which the judge, being cognitive of all the facts, has felt to be the correct one. I am sure that Mr. Cunningham feels bitter, but I wonder if his bitterness is blinding him to the rationale for this judgment. It does seem lenient, if one sees it as an open and shut case of death caused by assault, however we must look at all the other variables. This poor man was ill, due to his alcoholism, but his son also suffered as a direct result thereof. It is certainly not right, that he kill his father, but we are not to know, if the pressure and stress, which this poor young man already faced as a carer, was then exacerbated by the seemingly wholly irresponsible behaviour of his father. I would also question how the rest of the family treated poor young Tommy. From the post from his brother, it would appear that the family was resentful and unforthcoming to this troubled young man. Whilst his grandparents were there, the wider family seems to have been sniping as to his position and not being part of a wider community of recovery.

    Now, we have his family openly slandering and defaming this young man, who has a right to begin again. The fact that he is sleeping in homeless accommodation is a sad indictment of the failure of society and indeed his wider family to help him and prevent him from losing control over his life.
    How dare you bring your objectivity onto this thread. The judge, paul butler, is obviously an ivory tower pinko liberal softie who broke all the rules in order to do this manslaughtering thug a favour. This is a black and white issue. Leave your grey elsewhere. (was there a victim impact statement?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by parakeet View Post
    It is always sad when a tragedy causes division and upset in families and communities, but the criminal justice system seeks to wade through all the variables and come to a fair resolution. In this case, the jury and the judge have given their verdict and given a sentence, which the judge, being cognitive of all the facts, has felt to be the correct one. I am sure that Mr. Cunningham feels bitter, but I wonder if his bitterness is blinding him to the rationale for this judgment. It does seem lenient, if one sees it as an open and shut case of death caused by assault, however we must look at all the other variables. This poor man was ill, due to his alcoholism, but his son also suffered as a direct result thereof. It is certainly not right, that he kill his father, but we are not to know, if the pressure and stress, which this poor young man already faced as a carer, was then exacerbated by the seemingly wholly irresponsible behaviour of his father. I would also question how the rest of the family treated poor young Tommy. From the post from his brother, it would appear that the family was resentful and unforthcoming to this troubled young man. Whilst his grandparents were there, the wider family seems to have been sniping as to his position and not being part of a wider community of recovery.

    Now, we have his family openly slandering and defaming this young man, who has a right to begin again. The fact that he is sleeping in homeless accommodation is a sad indictment of the failure of society and indeed his wider family to help him and prevent him from losing control over his life.
    Your post is absolute rubbish! The jury in fact did find him guilty. They done their part in this. It was then on the judge to do just that...Judge. The "poor young man Tommy" as you refer to him is nothing more then a scumbag. He has no right to begin again as you state. He should be rotting in prison. Life is precious and enshrined in our laws. For taking a life you should be denied a continued existence in society and jailed forthwith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinno View Post
    , ..... We as a family have voiced our disapproval at how the case was presented but that it an ongoing matter between ourselves and the DPP. They do say that they are going to recommend an appeal against the leniency of the sentence.

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    If there i is a god in heavan and Brendan is up there how do you think he's feeling right now. There are schoolkids being given detention for talking in class all over the world but batter your father to death and you walk free, go figure.

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    SPEECHLESS!

    The only people arguing on behalf of the victim are on this thread.

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