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    Cyp - I rang to ask. It is sitting this afternoon and will be Dáil members only.

    I wonder will the media be covering it?

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    Apparently the meeting coincides with the report on child abuse and media outlets are naturally focusing on that. So not looking good for coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    Apparently the meeting coincides with the report on child abuse and media outlets are naturally focusing on that. So not looking good for coverage.
    Any news about that meeting? I haven't heard a thing about it on any station, they're all focused on the abuse document release to the exclusion of much else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myksav View Post
    Any news about that meeting? I haven't heard a thing about it on any station, they're all focused on the abuse document release to the exclusion of much else.
    Timing is everything in these matters. Did you ever see the "take out the garbage day" episode on the "West Wing"? I wonder what other bad news the government slipped out yesterday?

    As to the committee meeting; would the proceedings not be on the Dail website?
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    Anybody know why the publication of the abuse report was delayed until yesterday? The more I think about the timing of Grand Mufti Ahern's amendment on blasphemy the more I grow suspicious about whether (a) it is intended to intimidate critics of the catholic church in the coming days and (b) whether he wanted to use the storm across media over the abuse scandal in the hope of slipping the amendment through quietly.

    If those people named arrange for this amendment to go through the time for talking about principles of democracy is over. It'll be time for war as far as I'm concerned and Ahern and his creepy little Italian Colonel mates will move straight into the sights.

    It would be an honour to go after them, fair means or foul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    If those people named arrange for this amendment to go through the time for talking about principles of democracy is over. It'll be time for war as far as I'm concerned and Ahern and his creepy little Italian Colonel mates will move straight into the sights.

    It would be an honour to go after them, fair means or foul.


    Just don't expect the rest of us to be out protesting for your release...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Con O'Sullivan View Post
    Anybody know why the publication of the abuse report was delayed until yesterday? The more I think about the timing of Grand Mufti Ahern's amendment on blasphemy the more I grow suspicious about whether (a) it is intended to intimidate critics of the catholic church in the coming days and (b) whether he wanted to use the storm across media over the abuse scandal in the hope of slipping the amendment through quietly.

    If those people named arrange for this amendment to go through the time for talking about principles of democracy is over. It'll be time for war as far as I'm concerned and Ahern and his creepy little Italian Colonel mates will move straight into the sights.

    It would be an honour to go after them, fair means or foul.
    You think the abuse report was delayed to silently slip the blasphemy announcement through....?!

    Why do so many people find it hard to believe that the blasphemy law is a non-issue for most people. Clearly, not on this forum, but for the masses, it simply doesnt concern them.

    There was a mention of Aherns "amendment" and statement on the Breakfast Show on Newstalk this morning; Yates said he didnt see the need for it and moved on after approx. 10 seconds. Fair enough, the abuse report took up most of the show but they did fit in a few other items but never returned to the blasphemy thing.

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    Thats what the little creepy Italian Colonels and their acolytes want. Its an issue for anyone interested in free speech as a principle and eliminating the dead hand of the christian church from the running of a democratic republic.

    And most of all from the mentality of 1950's creeps who defend child abuse because it was the church that was the perpetrator.

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    Now that even the most ostrich like devotees of the Catholic Church have been forced to examine the impact of allowing fundamentalists to hold sway over our country perhaps they will begin to see just why the proposed legislation on blasphemy was greeted by such abhorrence by many of us on this forum and others. Perhaps now the sneering of individuals dismissing us as cranks will turn towards introspection instead. Does anyone still believe that blasphemy legislation is a non issue? Will Dermot Ahern continue to lambaste us as conspiracy theorists and pea brains?

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    PUBLIC MEETING, 8-10 PM THIS MONDAY, MAY 25

    IN WYNN’S HOTEL, ABBEY STREET, DUBLIN


    BLASPHEMY IS A VICTIMLESS CRIME

    Speakers will include:

    • Michael Nugent, chair of Atheist Ireland and co-author of I Keano
    • Ian O’Doherty, columnist with Independent newspapers
    • Dick Spicer, chair of the Humanist Association of Ireland
    • Robbie Bonham, comedian and cartoonist

    For further information see the campaign website at blasphemy.ie

    OTHER PUBLIC MEETINGS

    This meeting is part of series of public meetings against the blasphemy law. They include:

    WATERFORD - took place last week in the Tower Hotel
    CORK - Wednesday June 3rd at 7 pm, Metropole Hotel
    LIMERICK - Tuesday June 16th, venue to be announced

    Please come along to the meeting at Wynns this Monday, and please let others know about these meetings. It is important that we don't allow this medieval law to be revived in modern Ireland.

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