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Thread: New crime of blasphemous libel proposed for Defamation Bill - goodbye free speech ?

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    Tell me FreeSpeech, how do you feel about flag burning? Many believe it is their free speech right to do so, do you advocate the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    Tell me FreeSpeech, how do you feel about flag burning? Many believe it is their free speech right to do so, do you advocate the same?
    Talk about a non-sequitor. Why, are you proposing the burn the Irish flag in protest if this bill doesn't get approved?

    I think you'll find the issue of flag-burning, while it preoccupies our American brethren, doesn't cause any excitement here. So you'll need another childish analogy to cause some mock outrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    Tell me FreeSpeech, how do you feel about flag burning? Many believe it is their free speech right to do so, do you advocate the same?
    Seems to be somewhat of a tradition with some of your co-religionists all right. Fire on, if it makes you happy.
    "Je n'ai pas besoin de cette hypothèse." - Pierre-Simon de Laplace to Napoleon Bonaparte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oceanclub View Post
    Talk about a non-sequitor. Why, are you proposing the burn the Irish flag in protest if this bill doesn't get approved?

    I think you'll find the issue of flag-burning, while it preoccupies our American brethren, doesn't cause any excitement here. So you'll need another childish analogy to cause some mock outrage.

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    Not at all, I wouldn't seek to deliberately offend anyone, but then I'm not the same as those who relish the right to grossly insult, am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Seems to be somewhat of a tradition with some of your co-religionists all right. Fire on, if it makes you happy.
    Hardly a tradition, just one of those bad habits they picked up from disbelievers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alterego View Post
    Tell me FreeSpeech, how do you feel about flag burning? Many believe it is their free speech right to do so, do you advocate the same?
    As someone once said about burning the US flag, "burn the flag, not the idea". In other words the flag stands in part for your right to burn flags.

    I've no problem with burning flags.

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    Let's organize a flag-burning party for Alterego when he's in Ireland next. I'll bring marshmallows.

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    I too have no real problem with flag burning (I can see why, from their position of impotence, people in Gaza and Iraq burn Israeli/US flags). However, again, it's a public order matter. You stand in Time Square and attempt to burn the US flag and you will be arrested because it's a breach of the peace/constitutes public disorder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by femmefatale View Post
    I too have no real problem with flag burning (I can see why, from their position of impotence, people in Gaza and Iraq burn Israeli/US flags). However, again, it's a public order matter. You stand in Time Square and attempt to burn the US flag and you will be arrested because it's a breach of the peace/constitutes public disorder.
    Try burning a flag on the Falls road and see what happens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cato View Post
    Try burning a flag on the Falls road and see what happens.
    Exactly. We simply have to place limits on freedom of expression.

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