THE HUMANIST Association of Ireland has launched a poster campaign on Dart trains in the capital against the practice of judges and presidents of Ireland being obliged to take an oath. The poster, headed “Unbelievable”, asks: “Did you know that you must take a religious oath in order to become a judge – or the president – in Ireland?” It continues: “In effect, this rule disbars up to 250,000 Irish citizens who are non-believers. It’s discrimination. It’s unfair. And it has to end.”
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I watched with glee, while your kings and queens, fought for ten decades for the gods they made.
I am an aetheist and I took and oath in court. Big deal. Swear the oath and forget about it.Originally Posted by Andrew49
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I wonder how many have De Valera's crisis of conscience when taking the oath?
Lying in court is perjury, a crime in itself.
Atheists, non-believers, humanists and agnostics should not be required to have their word underwritten by an appeal to fairies at the bottom of the garden.
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It is a bit ridiculous and outdated. It should just be an oath to the court and to the people, on pain of being held in contempt of court.
I also find the fact that there are prayers at the start of Dail and Seanad sessions completely repugnant to the concept of a Republic.
Surely, the Dail and Seanad members should stand up and swear to the people to uphold the constitution, to carry out good Government and to act in the national interest etc.
There's no need for it to be a prayer, rather an Oath of Office given to their electorate.
It might make them think about what their role actually is too.
Atheists/Secularists bemoan how destruction, war and persecution has resulted from religon.
And then they get upset over empty formulas/words which have also caused such destruction, war and persecution.
Disappointing.
It's not just atheists who are affected.
Anybody who doesn't believe in a monetheistic deity is disbarred from office by being required to take the oath in its present form.
The constitution should be amended to provide an alternative to the oath, an alternative which is suitable for non-believers of all kinds.
Might European law have anything to say on this subject?
And does anyone have the text of the oath you have to take to testify in an Irish court? Does it really mean that an honest athiest cannot give evidence in an Irish court?
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It should be a universal oath that is based on the idea of not lying to the people, or attempting to pervert the court of justice.
It's a court of law, not a church confessional!
Does the current oath mean that a non-Christian, or a lapsed Christian, could simply lie their way through a court case without any consequence ?!
You can merely "affirm" in court or swear on the Koran/Bible, whatever.
The presidential oath (and perhaps the judicia oath) of office is constitutiionallly mandated, i think.
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