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About LinkBacksno Hopi you are making statements of fact which are incorecet, it will be used as a precdent, common law cites statute law as a precdent every day of the week.
no Hopi you are making statements of fact which are incorecet, it will be used as a precdent, common law cites statute law as a precdent every day of the week.
And what humanitarian grounds would there bem, the woman would be deported i.e. told to leave Ireland, not told to return to Nigeria, thety do not haver to do that, they can go to the UK, where their father lives, legalluy, and have more rights than they would have in Ireland.
Risk of harm or violence exists in every country. Just look at our own Country. If we let everybody who is at risk of violence in their home country come her and stay then we'd be bankrupt within months. Only in extreme cases should people be allowed stay. Nigeria is not a war torn country.
I would love to see the figures for the percentage of Nigerians nationals in Ireland that claim social welfare. I would say its disproportionally high.
Wrong, and one more time, a decsion of a Minsietr to reverse a court deliberation on humnanitarian grounds has no implivations whatever for the said law and all future cases will proceed with no reference to any such decision.Originally Posted by sandar
How could we 'morally' refuse the next family with similar claims hopi ?
But you haven't explained on what basis we should refuse other families from countries where FGM is practiced, despite implying we should not grant them all asylum.
If we grant this family permission to stay on the grounds that there is a "slight chance" the children will come to harm in Nigeria, how can we using the same logic, refuse any other family with young girls?
I don't think they will be in Ireland much longer. Monday next I would say.
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No I am not wrong, I have quite a bi of legal knowledge and experience although I am not a legal professional and I understand how precedent works. Noc an you answer, on what grounds would a minister make a decsion to allow this woman to stay in Irelkand when she can live in the UK as a resident any dauy she wants.
Precdent is a principal on which all common and staute(rather than constiutional) law is based, itw ould not be binding but it would be relevant in all future simiolair cases.
Thyat is not the issue and never was. Ireland could not solve all the problems of the world and nobody is suggesting that we should even tr. A humanitarian reversal in this case does not expose us to any such scenario, pur existing immigration laws remain intact. The govenrment, should however, in conjuction with the EU and other countries, seek alternative means of dealing with such cases.
On humanitarian grounds, I call for her to be deported so as to help avoid cuts in the health-service owing to us having to borrow to pay for bogus asylum-seekers like her. A Dept of Finance official on Oireachtas report last week claimed asylum is costing the taxpayer over €300 million per annum. The Mirror stated that her case has cost the country €1 million thus far.
