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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    Yip, its definitely Angelcountry. You can tell from the totally indecipherable English!
    But will the moderators take any action?

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    the ball is in their court, I've reported the troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    But will the moderators take any action?

    Regards...jmcc
    You got a kick by the horse didn't you ?

    Well i dont think i failled my English exerminations in schools anyways, so keep searching ?

    I have similar political websites that i have registered at in the past four years plus, i have never recieved any threat to be shut down than in irish political website because they dont allow the truth or allow freedom of speech or exposure to the outside world about what's going on in the state most especially to the minority people in the country, well we will always have a voice we will not sucumb to all the attacks so what should the taoiseach do to the poster they did on him in these website politics.ie ?

    So the rest is left for you to sort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    Just click on the link in the news article.
    RTÉ News: Izevbekhai says case documents were fake
    "I don't know what to say"

    Fairly out of her depth now and not much consolation for her supporters.

    Is there any evidence that the Irish authorities knew about these fake documents all along and Pamela was just playing a very public game of chicken with them. Her hope being to batter the Irish authorities into submission by orchestrating public opinion?
    "I don't think Martin McGuinness necessarily intended to kill anyone while in the IRA." factual

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    "I don't know what to say"

    Fairly out of her depth now and not much consolation for her supporters.

    Is there any evidence that the Irish authorities knew about these fake documents all along and Pamela was just playing a very public game of chicken with them. Her hope being to batter the Irish authorities into submission by orchestrating public opinion?
    You can see now that you're not smart rather than attacking Nigerians ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    "I don't know what to say"

    Fairly out of her depth now and not much consolation for her supporters.

    Is there any evidence that the Irish authorities knew about these fake documents all along and Pamela was just playing a very public game of chicken with them. Her hope being to batter the Irish authorities into submission by orchestrating public opinion?

    Maybe that was her plan, I can see her getting deported very soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete2 View Post
    Is there any evidence that the Irish authorities knew about these fake documents all along and Pamela was just playing a very public game of chicken with them. Her hope being to batter the Irish authorities into submission by orchestrating public opinion?
    It is an interesting conspiracy theory but the deportation order had been signed and it was only an appeal to the ECHR that had put a stay on the execution of that order (if I understand the situation correctly). The case had fallen at every hurdle and this appeal to the ECHR was a nuclear option. It may have forced the government to have a water tight case hence the diplomatic and Garda investigation. This would have involved verifying all claims and documentation. And it did. The economic situation has changed and there is the political concern for the government in that if it is seen to be weak on bogus asylum seeking, it could see its vote diminish considerably in the areas where this is a possible electoral issue. I think that this naive 'open borders' multicultural approach damaged Sinn Fein during the last General Election in what should have been its natural heartland constituencies. FF learned from what happened and as competition for scarce social welfare resources grows, there may be a lot of expedited cases of this nature. Naturally it is always best to have precedent and this particular case is shaping up to provide it. Corelli can explain the legal side far better than I can.

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    From the Refugee Act 1996. Subsections 4 and 6 appear relevant.

    "20.—(1) In this section "identity documents" includes a passport, visa, national identity card, driving licence, birth certificate, marriage certificate or any other document establishing a person's nationality or identity purporting to be issued by or on behalf of a local or national authority of any country or by an organ or agency of the United Nations.


    (2) If a person, for the purposes of or in relation to an application under section 8, gives or makes to the Commissioner, the Appeal Board or to an authorised officer any statement or information which is to his or her knowledge false or misleading in any material particular, that person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both.


    (3) If a person, for the purposes of or in relation to an application for a declaration, destroys or conceals the identity documents of an applicant or of a person who subsequently makes an application for a declaration with intent to deceive, he or she shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both.


    (4) If a person forges, or fraudulently alters, or assists in forging or fraudulently altering, or procures to be forged or fraudulently altered any identity documents for reward and such documents are used or intended to be used in connection with an application for a declaration, that person shall be guilty of an offence and shall be liable—


    ( a ) on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both, or


    ( b ) on conviction on indictment to a fine not exceeding £60,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 years or to both.


    (5) If a person sells or supplies, or has in his or her possession for the purpose of sale or supply, forged identity documents and such documents are used or intended to be used in connection with an application for a declaration, that person shall be liable—


    ( a ) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 6 months or to both, or


    ( b ) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding £100,000 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 5 years or to both.


    (6) A member of the Garda Síochána may arrest without warrant a person whom the member reasonably suspects of committing or of having committed an offence under this section."

    I hope the Gardai apply the law in this case. This woman is ruining the asylum system and public sympathy for people for genuine refugees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    It is an interesting conspiracy theory but the deportation order had been signed and it was only an appeal to the ECHR that had put a stay on the execution of that order (if I understand the situation correctly). The case had fallen at every hurdle and this appeal to the ECHR was a nuclear option. It may have forced the government to have a water tight case hence the diplomatic and Garda investigation. This would have involved verifying all claims and documentation. And it did. The economic situation has changed and there is the political concern for the government in that if it is seen to be weak on bogus asylum seeking, it could see its vote diminish considerably in the areas where this is a possible electoral issue. I think that this naive 'open borders' multicultural approach damaged Sinn Fein during the last General Election in what should have been its natural heartland constituencies. FF learned from what happened and as competition for scarce social welfare resources grows, there may be a lot of expedited cases of this nature. Naturally it is always best to have precedent and this particular case is shaping up to provide it. Corelli can explain the legal side far better than I can.

    Regards...jmcc
    Good post and you can chalk it down it hurt Sinn Fein in the last General Election. Personally I am delighted for Medb Ruane, Justine MacCarthy, Gerry Ryan, Roddy Doyle, that awful Sligo mayor, Veronica Cawley who gave her the civic reception and all those other stupid politicians. It was always monumentally stupid for a small, traditionally impoverished country to have an essentially open doors policy on immigration. I don't even blame the chancers that much, it's up to our politicians to protect us. It cost us 82 million euro in accomodation alone for existing asylum seekers last year (not including those who were granted asylum, who are funded by welfare) according to last Sunday's Mail. They also reported on two separate protests by asylum seekers over the food they were getting!! The nerve of them is unreal. They obviously weren't that grateful to be fleeing their "persecutors" if they were complaining about their free food. We can't afford to be dealing with all these spongers who have put ZERO in to the system.

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    Ha ha, this gets even better!
    According to the Times:
    "Unokanjo denied yesterday that he was ever interviewed by RTE Radio, and gardai are satisfied that the “Nigerian doctor” who featured in the RTE interviews is not him.

    “Nobody has interviewed me. I never gave an interview to a radio or television organisation in Dublin, Ireland, or outside Nigeria,” Unokanjo said. He refused to answer any further questions unless a fee of €5,000 was paid."
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle5993330.ece

    RTE went big on this interview by Philip Boucher-Hayes on Friday in a last ditch appeal to sway public opinion and the courts. They played the interview with the "doctor" who "confirmed" her story as true on Gerry Ryan and the drivetime programme. Delighted to see the cultural marxist state broadcaster get their hands burned badly on this one. Delighted for Amnesty International as well, formerly an excellent,worthy organisation, now destroyed by a leftist ideology.

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