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    Lets suppose this woman was not an asylum seeker but another national. A parent with 2 daughters to raise. Then she commited perjury by lying on official forms, committed fraud by obtaining state monies she was not entitled to, illegally entered the country, and continued this lie through her words daily on an effort to play to the sympathies of Irish people. This process has cost the taxpayers millions now.

    What would or should happen to her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    So becuase she lied, regardless of what danger might await her family, we should deport. Despicable doesn't get the job done any more. Why not do yourself a favour and stop digging. You could do worse than requesting that this thread be closed and removed.
    No thats not whats being said. Whats being said is that we have only here word for it that her children are in any danger, and since she lied, her word is not much of a bond,. If she offers evidence of her children being in danger then she has a claim, her word is not evidence, and even less so because she lied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandar View Post
    No thats not whats being said. Whats being said is that we have only here word for it that her children are in any danger, and since she lied, her word is not much of a bond,. If she offers evidence of her children being in danger then she has a claim, her word is not evidence, and even less so because she lied.
    What evidence do you suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keepitreal View Post
    That is what this is all really about. If she is allowed to remain in the state it's essentially saying that Ireland and the rest of the EU will accept people that claim they/their familys are in grave danger, even if their claim is based on lies.
    I think you are missing the point here, yes she might have lied (the jury is still out that one) about the fate of one of her children. Incidentally the anti-immigrationists where still baying for her blood before the allegation came into question.

    Her other children may very well be in danger if they return to Nigeria.

    Inversely there may be no danger at all to them and indeed she may be lying on that count also.

    The point is, we need to be sure.



    This case will not set a trigger opening up the floodgates, all that will happen is those claiming asylum based on FGM will have their claims even more thoroughly investigated.

    The way people are going on here you would swear there a millions amassing at the Airports ion Africa, plane tickets in hand waiting to see the outcome of this case.
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    DEPORT DEPORT AND DEPORT costing the state millions in this economic climate is a disgrace

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    What evidence do you suggest?
    You haven't answered my question re her in-laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    So becuase she lied, regardless of what danger might await her family, we should deport. Despicable doesn't get the job done any more. Why not do yourself a favour and stop digging. You could do worse than requesting that this thread be closed and removed.
    What's the matter - afraid of the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lthse View Post
    You haven't answered my question re her in-laws.
    What question? Is it relevent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    What's the matter - afraid of the truth?

    This isn't China BTW.
    What truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    What evidence do you suggest?
    I dont knwo but the law requires evidence, making a claim for asylum is cliaming that tyou or your family are in danger of persectution because of your beliefs or the beliefes of others, its her job to shhow that she is in danger, there are people who are really in danger in nigeria, who come to Ireland and are granted asylum, what evidence did they have? I do t know,, but they must have had mroe evidence than this ladym, whose claim was rejected at the first hurdle while many of her fellowe claimants had their claims granted. For example, showing that FGM is prcatised in the area in which you reside would be a start. Can she do that. FGN is practised almost exclusively by the Muslim population of Nigeria, who are present everywhere in the country, but strongets in the North of the countrym she is from the south.
    Its not my job to make her claim for her, its here job, her contemporaries could do it, if she is a genuine claimant so could she.
    But you seem tp be suggesting that someone sayiong they are in danger is enough on its own, without any evidence or reason that they would be in danger. and that meansd we might as well not have an asylum process and just grant it to everyone who asks, because they will have any story they say believed, so whay bother asking for a story at all.

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