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Thread: Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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    I think that they should pay for Pamela stay

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    If public finances wouldn’t involved at all – I don’t think that anybody would worry about her

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Maybe after 4 years we are sick and tired of waiting for the same cock and bull stories from this woman to be proven wrong, which they always are. If you believe Ireland was the first safe country she went to outside of Nigeria then you are deluded. Even were there a danger in Nigeria, it doesn't on its own justify travelling across half the African continent (especially the Western Maghreb where FGM is uncommon), crossing the Meditteranean and then crossing the boundaries of several sovereign EU states before crossing the Northern border to this State. It's the height of nonsense to suggest that her safety depended on arrival in this Republic, as opposed to remaining say in the UK where we now know she was en route to this State via a UK holiday-visa. Your party needs to start listening to public-opinion, instead of the bleeding-heart stuff we had to endure in the Citizenship referendum. You may be doing okay in the polls in 2009, but in a GE, a lot of that support will prove to be fickle if Labour is again seen as the party that is soft on asylum, always quick to believe tall tales from failed asylum-seekers. At least a million euro has already been expended by the taxpayer on her asylum claim and subsequent legal-proceedings. The time has come to say enough is enough and return this woman either to her home country or to a previous EU country of entry under the Dublin II Regulations. Charity begins at home.
    Er, I'm not affiliated to any party - I just don't particularly like FF much and am generally liberal in my views.

    As to your point about her being in Ireland - she's been here for four years now. She wants to live in Sligo and by all accounts is popular in the local community. It would not be charity to let her stay - she wants to work and contribute.

    I know you don't agree but that's my opinion. I suppose we will both have to way for the European court decision. No amount of fulmination here is going to make a blind bit of difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    FGM is practiced throughout Nigeria, it is only has a higher incidence in the Northern States.

    http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/nigeri...gm_Nigeria.pdf

    In addition the only ethnic group in Nigeria who do not practice FGM at all are the Fulani who strangely enough are all Muslim so lets put this christian/muslim divide to bed as well.

    Surely this obviously articulate woman should be leading the campaign in her own country to end this barbaric practice. She is in my opinion a total phoney and I would personally pay for her air fare home. If every Nigerian woman brings her daughter/s to Ireland should we allow them to stay as well. We are being taken for idiots by charlatans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TradCat View Post
    The damage done by this case will undermine all asylum applications. Why should we believe anyone now?
    Why should that be the case, there will always be people who chance their arm. You do have to wonder why over 1 million euro later the Garda decide to speak with the doctor in question. I would've thought that would be a natural FIRST step in asserting the validity of her story. The system is as much at fault as she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    I do not condone illegal immigration and believe the US is entirely within its legal rights to deport those living there illegally - though that is their internal affair. But I would point out once again the nonsense of comparing a small island like Ireland to a vast continent like North America, with 300 million people compared to 3.7 million native Irish people living in this Republic in the last Census (plus 420,000 foreign-nationals). Proportionately, existing levels of immigration place a far greater burden on our public-services and bring disproportionate competition to the labour-market. The Irish are a drop in the ocean in the countries they emigrated to, whereas we have gone from 2 to 10% in ten years. So kindly refrain from glib comparisons with the US as a country of destination. The willingness of you people to cave-in to every Tom, Dick and Harry that wants to come to this country is unbelievable. Even in a recession when Irish people face being forced to leave the country, you still have so little regard for your own people that you want to keep the doors thrown open with all the implications that implies in terms of exploitation, displacement, and pressure on a health-service that is already facing cuts in the years ahead. This is not about blaming immigrants, but rather blaming the politicians and the leftwing-intellectuals who dictate govt policy in this area, without a democratic-mandate to do so. I encourage concerned posters to contact their local representatives to voice their concerns on this matter.
    Like with like Taoiseach .Illegal is illegal. You cannot distinguish on the basis of nationality.

    Before anyone says that "we irish went to work" I would point out that asylum seekers are legally prevented from working here.

    I do, however, think this individual should be focked out without delay if it is proved accurate that what is alleged in todays Indo. is accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Utopian Hermit Monk View Post
    I disagree with you. But I will certainly grant that you are more consistent than FutureTaoiseach in this regard.
    If you are caught out over there its the next plane home - no if buts or maybes....

    We should do the same here.

    Pammy should try the USA and see what happens to her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpa View Post
    If you are caught out over there its the next plane home - no if buts or maybes....

    We should do the same here.

    Pammy should try the USA and see what happens to her.
    Well you know the answer to that, she would be pegged out without delay. That is not evidence of the propriety of their or the lack thereof of ours, though illustrative.

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    In relation to this woman's Story if she really did have a kid that died then it must be buried somewhere.

    If she wants to a least prove that she did have the baby then locate the grave, dig it open and take a DNA sample and compare it to her own.

    Conclusive proof one way or the other as the whether that bit at least is true or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    At least a million euro has already been expended by the taxpayer on her asylum claim and subsequent legal-proceedings.
    One million euro is equivalent to 7000 tons of grain. How many people it would save from hunger in Africa?

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    Maybe now Ms Izevbekhai’s do-gooders, chief among them a Mr S.D. of the “Let Them Stay” campaign will eat humble pie and be man enough to admit that they were duped by a an elaborate fraudster.
    I just hope that Mayor Veronica Cawley will apologise to the people of Sligo for allowing her office as Mayor to be used and abused by this deception. Failing that the people of the Sligo No 1 North Borough Council will adjudicate on her actions in this case on 5th June next.
    tan Gaucho como el Gaucho

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