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[joemoran]

I fully agree with you Horace and it isn't mentioned enough. The smoked salmon socialists are the ones that think all immigration is marvellous for us all and usually use the words multicultural and how wonderful it is to have different restaurants in Ireland. This is a right-on poition that they feel the ought to take without actually thinking it through.Immigration suits the right wing parties and groups such as IBEC. When I say right wing I mean FF in this sense because their gombeem followers only think about what benefits their pocket.

The champagne socialists in the media such as Fintan O' Foole and Vincent Browne played a useful role for the gombeen men of Fianna Fail and IBEC. Fill up the country with as much cheap labour as you can. Then these immigrants can rent out second homes owned by the same group. It is fair enough IBEC and the PD's encouraging this race to the bottom, but what passes for a left wing in this country should feel deep shame of how they acted as cheerleaders for this. Working class people now have to fight for scarce resources with immigrants who are dumped at the bottom of society with them. If you study the following data from the Indo, you will see that it is poor areas that have the most immigrant children in schools. The rich are less likely to enjoy these "benefits" of diversity such as having half your class unable to speak English.
New figures reveal 10pc of primary pupils born overseas - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie
Archbishop Martin has commented on how wealthier people are voting with their feet and opting out of schools with high levels of immigrant children, an option many poor people do not have.
"The archbishop said: 'Integration is a challenge for all. Integration is not just for the poor. It would be tragic and dangerous if the current debate were to lead parents to consider how they might 'opt out' of integrated education by seeking schools that might not have a broad ethnic mix."
RTÉ News: Archbishop urges use of mixed ethnic schools

If you notice, on this site, so called left wingers (generally 3rd level students or "right on" middle class types) constantly criticise Irish working class people as "lazy", "knackers" or "scumbags", yet any critism of the open borders policy is immediately denounced as "racist".

[Catalpa]

Just seen this upcoming event on Indymedia - some of the posters on this thread may wish to attend -

Wed 29th April 1.30 pm At GNIB, Burgh Quay Dublin 2
Protest by Residents Against Racicm

apparently there is to be a mass deportation of Nigerians later in the day 'at dead of night' and some of them have been here '6 years' and have 'no family in Nigeria'

Doesn't say if Pamela and family are among the contingent to be packed off in the darkness

Rosanna to be deported instead.

In fact if they take her then PamI can stay.


It would be worth it.

[Horace Horse]

Rosanna to be deported instead.

In fact if they take her then PamI can stay.


It would be worth it.

Does anyone know anything about this woman Flynn?

Obviously here name is Irish, but her accent is of the English mid-upper class. Where did she appear from? Is she a Labour party member, as someone told me?

[imokyrok]

The champagne socialists in the media such as Fintan O' Foole and Vincent Browne played a useful role for the gombeen men of Fianna Fail and IBEC. Fill up the country with as much cheap labour as you can. Then these immigrants can rent out second homes owned by the same group. It is fair enough IBEC and the PD's encouraging this race to the bottom, but what passes for a left wing in this country should feel deep shame of how they acted as cheerleaders for this. Working class people now have to fight for scarce resources with immigrants who are dumped at the bottom of society with them. If you study the following data from the Indo, you will see that it is poor areas that have the most immigrant children in schools. The rich are less likely to enjoy these "benefits" of diversity such as having half your class unable to speak English.
New figures reveal 10pc of primary pupils born overseas - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie
Archbishop Martin has commented on how wealthier people are voting with their feet and opting out of schools with high levels of immigrant children, an option many poor people do not have.
"The archbishop said: 'Integration is a challenge for all. Integration is not just for the poor. It would be tragic and dangerous if the current debate were to lead parents to consider how they might 'opt out' of integrated education by seeking schools that might not have a broad ethnic mix."
RTÉ News: Archbishop urges use of mixed ethnic schools

If you notice, on this site, so called left wingers (generally 3rd level students or "right on" middle class types) constantly criticise Irish working class people as "lazy", "knackers" or "scumbags", yet any critism of the open borders policy is immediately denounced as "racist".

Wealthier people always did opt out of local public schools. This is nothing different. When I was in UCD I was one of the few people I knew who hadn't attended private schools. That was in the 80's. I'm told little has changed in that direction. Certainly the children of those people still go to private schools.

While most of you won't believe it I and the parents of our local school set it up precisely so that our children would have a chance to be part of a multi-cultural, multi-faith school and six years on it couldn't be better. By the way- those Nigerian children you guys love to dump on - pose no difficulties educationally. They speak english after-all and they sure do add vitality to school plays and choirs!

[gabhla]

maybe you should ask a teacher?

"Behaviour is not a feature across all cultures- more a problem in the African cultures,
particularly Nigerian’, reported one senior class teacher."

"Teachers referred to some children exhibiting hugely disrespectful behaviour towards female
members of staff. This comment from a fifth class teacher is indicative of how teachers
related these sentiments: ‘…a general lack of respect of Nigerian and African boys towards
teachers- especially older children with female teachers.’

page 69

Intercultural Education:
Primary Challenges
in Dublin 15

http://bap.ie/dloads/intercultural_education_report.pdf

[gabhla]

also form the same report, it says that Nigerians are the largest group in need of English language support:

Page 52

"The higest representation is Nigerian nationals, who account for 574 of the 2084, or 28% of the total. Romanians are the second largest group, with 280 or 13%. A breakdown of these figures is shown as Appendix H."

[hopi watcher]

maybe you should ask a teacher?

"Behaviour is not a feature across all cultures- more a problem in the African cultures,
particularly Nigerian’, reported one senior class teacher."

"Teachers referred to some children exhibiting hugely disrespectful behaviour towards female
members of staff. This comment from a fifth class teacher is indicative of how teachers
related these sentiments: ‘…a general lack of respect of Nigerian and African boys towards
teachers- especially older children with female teachers.’

page 69

Intercultural Education:
Primary Challenges
in Dublin 15

http://bap.ie/dloads/intercultural_education_report.pdf

It is an absolute joke that anyone would cite this excellent report to back up bias. It demonstrates the paucity of the arguments that abound on this thread.

[bob3344]

It is an absolute joke that anyone would cite this excellent report to back up bias. It demonstrates the paucity of the arguments that abound on this thread.

How can you love the report & hate its findings ?

Does not compute.

[Eorna]

The champagne socialists in the media such as Fintan O' Foole and Vincent Browne played a useful role for the gombeen men of Fianna Fail and IBEC. Fill up the country with as much cheap labour as you can. Then these immigrants can rent out second homes owned by the same group. It is fair enough IBEC and the PD's encouraging this race to the bottom, but what passes for a left wing in this country should feel deep shame of how they acted as cheerleaders for this. Working class people now have to fight for scarce resources with immigrants who are dumped at the bottom of society with them. If you study the following data from the Indo, you will see that it is poor areas that have the most immigrant children in schools. The rich are less likely to enjoy these "benefits" of diversity such as having half your class unable to speak English.
New figures reveal 10pc of primary pupils born overseas - Latest News, Education - Independent.ie
Archbishop Martin has commented on how wealthier people are voting with their feet and opting out of schools with high levels of immigrant children, an option many poor people do not have.
"The archbishop said: 'Integration is a challenge for all. Integration is not just for the poor. It would be tragic and dangerous if the current debate were to lead parents to consider how they might 'opt out' of integrated education by seeking schools that might not have a broad ethnic mix."
RTÉ News: Archbishop urges use of mixed ethnic schools

If you notice, on this site, so called left wingers (generally 3rd level students or "right on" middle class types) constantly criticise Irish working class people as "lazy", "knackers" or "scumbags", yet any critism of the open borders policy is immediately denounced as "racist".

It is very true, a good post. I remember being out leafleting for a left wing party, with a fellow who would be prominent in an anti racism organisation in Dublin, we were leafleting in a flat complex, it needed to be done up, to be honest it needed to be bulldozed, and I said so, and he replied with no hint of irony, that if they were all put in to houses that it would affect the party's support. It never occurred to him, that it might be good for those people. He could talk about Bukharin and Anarchism for a week, but he couldn't even grasp that the people who lived there, were more than an idealogical experiment, or to be viewed as a launching pad for a proletariat society, they were real people.

[hopi watcher]

How can you love the report & hate its findings ?

Does not compute.

My capacity to understand it is not blurred by any desire to acquire justifiaction for any racist feelings that may be lurking in the background. If the authors of this report had known that it would be bandied about on this thread, they would have tossed it into the fire.