I have never been banned, Conor, you're a fool.Originally Posted by Conor
But how come you didn't post condemning Family Guy for his threats by PM such as "I know where you live"?
Is Family Guy a crony of yours?
You're not just a halfwit, Conor, you're a useless hypocrite.
Can we do away with all this " all those who support mass imigration" rubbish.
I dont know anyone who believes in mass imigration, its a nonsense idea.
However some of us believe that whilst the asylum procedures nead to be tightend up and that Imigration should be properly and transparently managed, you have to treat people Humanly. I would say again that these children should not be punished for their mothers actions.
Having said that if they realy do have a good well off family awaiting them in Nigeria then i would be of a different mind, likewise if their father is in England then i agree It might be possible for him to come here to look after the kids.
Once again wanting to treat children Humanely deose not make me one of the phantom mass imigrationists.
Cira/rira Not in my name.
Harvey/paypal if i have made any threats or lewd suggestions to oyu please feel free to report them and get me banned. Also, you can post them up hre fo rall to see. You know you cannot though because once again my good friend you are lying.
Indeed it is you that sent an abusive pm to me yesterday, not the other way around. There really is no need ot be abusive. Is that why your immigrant wife left you? Were you abusive to her too?
I could care less what RTE have reported or investigated for that matter. I am basing what I said on the Gardai investigation in Nigeria.
Deportation case mother had fake baby death papers, inquiry told - Courts, National News - Independent.ieInquiries by the garda national immigration unit in Nigeria have uncovered apparent discrepancies in the case presented by Pamela Izevbekhai to the High Court and Supreme Court in Dublin and to the European Court of Human Rights.
"What all the wise men promised has not happened and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass". Lord Melborne, on Catholic emancipation in Ireland
You're quite right, it certainly is "a nonsense idea".
So how come it's been going on unchecked in our country for the past decade?
Family Guy, You're a liar. I have never PM-d you in my life. In fact I almost never PM anyone, since I am not interested in others' opinions.
In your case, however, Family Guy, I want nothing whatsoever to do with you. I have not and will not PM you, because you're quite creepy! Your threats and rather soiled remarks are not the kind of thing I want to read.
You're a liar, Family Guy, though I suspect that's the least of your problems. I suggest you seek help.
So why dont you report my supposed PM's that supposedly threaten you and make lewd suggestions. Why dont you post them up here for all to see? Come on harvey. Dont be shy
Oh and dont lie harvey. You did pm me and it was abusive. Is that why your immigrant wife left you? Were you abusive to her too?
It hasn't been going on unchecked and only a thick ignorant cave dweller like you would think so. Now run along, I'm sure they miss you on Stormfront.
"The Egyptians could run to Egypt, the Syrians into Syria. The only place we could run was into the sea, and before we did that we might as well fight.” -Golda Meir
I am aware of the report. I just don't necessarily believe it.
This case is a huge embarrassment to the Nigerian government, especially since it's now gone to the European court. You would be naive in the extreme to think that some pressure was not brought to bear on this doctor to change his story - and he has changed it, utterly, since an interview a couple of years ago.
Essentially, I think people should just wait and see what develops with this instead of immediately demanding the deportation of this woman, and her two children, in the wake of the story.
Probably a fool's errand but maybe worth pointing out that the story today isn't as clear as it seems. The doctor is saying everything was forged and a fake created by Pamela. But that's not what he said in 2005 when interviewed by RTÉ's Philip Boucher Hayes. Clip played on Gerry Ryan today:
Boucher Hayes
Dr. Unokanjo, back in 2005 and he gives evidence to the affect that not only was he there when the child died but he was also there when the child was born…
Clip of Dr. Unokanjo
Baby Elizabeth Izevbekhai was delivered in this hospital on 11th February 1993, a product of full term supervised pregnancy. The baby was delivered via spontaneous vaginal delivery, that is SVD, with part complications and was discharged three days later in good condition but a year plus later baby Elizabeth was rushed back to the hospital on the evening of 15th July 1994 with history of weakness and pallor which possibly resulted from profused bleeding having undergone the traditional female genital circumcision. I thought to survive baby would include emergency blood transfusion proved abortive, baby therefore died of circulatory collapse at about 5.30am on the 16th July 1994 and that is actually what happened. The death was as a result of what circumcision did to her.
Philip
Are cases like this common?
Dr. Unokanjo
It depends on the naivety (pho) of the people involved, some people…
Philip
And in your experience the tribe that Tony came from, were there in the habit of performing female genital circumcision?
Dr. Unokanjo
Yes, yes, I think that Pamela’s husband, especially the husband, they are still into this awkward (pho) tradition.
Gerry Ryan
Well that seems the polar opposite to what he is saying in the Affidavit.
Philip
Couldn’t have been clearer reading from his own notes, so you ask yourself what happened between my interview and that Affidavit and I think this is the key thing here. It came to my attention that a number of the people that I had interviewed and broadcast interviews with on RTE Radio were visited in Nigeria by a Captain in the Nigerian Army, and they were told in no uncertain terms, do not continue to lend your support to Pamela Izevbekhai’s case and certainly do not continue talking to journalist from Irish radio. In the immediate wake of that I rang Dr. Unokanjo back to see had this happened to him as well…...
Imagine how much trouble it is in 2005 to go and root out notes from 1994, he went to quite a considerable amount of effort to help me establish the bonefides of Pamela Izevbekhai’s claim but here you have, a couple of months after that interview was broadcast, I get back to him in the Isioma Hospital in Lagos and he won’t answer the phone to me and a colleague of his tells me that he has had a visit from somebody in the Nigerian Army, he has been threatened and he is not going to talk to me and that I should stop calling and he refused to answer any subsequent calls that I made, and that was the experience of one or two other people who also gave me interviews.
So, the doctor was lieing in 2005 or he was lieing in 2009. I don't know which it is but at some point he lied. What we shouldn't do is make a snap decision either way. It could be that Pamela left an upper middle class lifestyle in Lagos to live on 19 Euros a week in Sligo for reasons other than FGM. She faked three or four different pieces of documentation, fooled journalists and researchers and managed to bribe doctors to support her case when questioned. Or the Nigerian state may have moved to intimidate and cover up the fact of her first child's death.
I honestly don't know, though I lean more towards Pamela than the other argument, I'm fully prepared to accept she lied if it's proven after a fair, impartial and independent investigation. Which brings us to the other difficulty here. Pamela made her claim four years ago. Shouldn't this have been investigated before this and the decision, whatever it was, made then on the back of real information rather than the Irish government's claim that Nigeria could protect children from FGM (The only defence Ireland had until today for refusing her application) which Nigeria itself undermined when they told the UN in 2006 that enforcement of anti-FGM laws in Nigeria was negligible.
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