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Thread: Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Care to explain where I 'changed my position'?
    Colm O'Gorman was a PD and yet you seem to think insulting people by claiming they are "the last PD standing" works. So how does it feel to be supporting a PD - one who was, at one time, spoken as a potential leader of the PDs? So how does it feel to be a PD supporter, Hopi?

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    wait atminute, its that prevalent and common that the woman in this cas ehad never even heard of it?!
    The reason for that is that FGM is a cultural prcatoce in certain parts of nigeria and among ceertain peoples, if you arer not from those parts and not one of those peopes then you are not under threat from it.
    Its a complete and total lie to state that all children are at risk from it, amnesty dont even say that.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Did you really mean to post that??? You want to gamble on the health and safety of two childfren? And your certainty is impressive. The Labour Party is sure attracting some fine upstanding, caring people these days!!!
    Not a gamble but - as I said - an earnest of my confidence that it will not happen.
    Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.Harry View Post
    This should be mandatory reading for anybody who wishes to inform themselves on the matter of FGM in Nigeria.
    It demonstrates that the Nigerian govt. is attempting to hide the facts from the Irish people.
    It also demonstrates why any sane person would be driven to falsify documents in order to escape from that hellhole.
    Isn't it odd how so many posters have no difficulty in siding with the Nigerian ambassador,
    who has been clearly shown to be not telling the truth, and yet condemn P.I. for not telling the truth?
    It shows that many of those in favour of deportation are motivated by an agenda and not by any search for truth or justice.
    Mandantory reading for what? A totally biased "journalist" with no objectivity. I have lost all faith in the Independenat being ojective at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    The podcast of this debate would be worth listening to for those that didn't catch it. Colm O'Gorman showed the ambassdor up to be a complete fool.

    The ambassador first insisted on reading out a statement to the effect that the Nigerian Attorney General and Minister for Justice were instigating an investigation into who was putting about these damaging stories about the prevalance of FGM in Nigeria and suggested that the facts were being widely misrepresented.

    When Colm O'Gorman pointed out that the statistics on FGM were provided to the UN by the Nigerian government themselves the ambassador seemed to be completely unaware of this fact. COG then asked whether the Nigerian government was now in the bizarre position of investigating itself for spreading this information. The ambassador spent the rest of the interview avoiding this point and seemingly flailing about for anyone else to blame. There was a menacing undertone to her arguments. The Nigerian government seem far more irate about the fact that the prevalence of FGM is attracting media attention than the fact that such a form of torture is so widespread in their country.
    I think Colm O Gormon shou.d be investigated. He was a member of, and sought election as a member of a right-wing political party with no human rights record. He himself had no human rights record. Protesting, quite justifiably against Catholic clergy sexual misdeeds does not constitute a track record in human rights. How come he kept his mouth shut about female circumcision for all those years? And now he's the big expert.

    Yet this guy suddenly popped up as Mr Human Rights! How the hell did that happen?

    As long as O Gormon is in charge of Amnesty, they won't see a cent of my money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    Well, all except one. Pamela Izevbekhai, a well educated Nigerian woman, had never even heard of it until she was 26.

    Colm O Gorman had never heard of it till he got the job (what, no public advertisement of the vacancy???) in Amnesty.

    Do I smell corruption .... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Horse View Post
    I think Colm O Gormon shou.d be investigated. He was a member of, and sought election as a member of a right-wing political party with no human rights record. He himself had no human rights record. Protesting, quite justifiably against Catholic clergy sexual misdeeds does not constitute a track record in human rights. How come he kept his mouth shut about female circumcision for all those years? And now he's the big expert.

    Yet this guy suddenly popped up as Mr Human Rights! How the hell did that happen?

    As long as O Gormon is in charge of Amnesty, they won't see a cent of my money.
    The utter stupidity of this post is self evident.

    Also in modifying my reputation the poster also said that my post referring to the debate on The Last Word between Colm O'Gorman and the Nigerian ambassador was racist against Africans. Perhaps Horace you'd like to explain exactly what in what I wrote was racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveM View Post
    The utter stupidity of this post is self evident.

    Also in modifying my reputation the poster also said that my post referring to the debate on The Last Word between Colm O'Gorman and the Nigerian ambassador was racist against Africans. Perhaps Horace you'd like to explain exactly what in what I wrote was racist?
    You Mass Immigrationists tend to be slow learners, don't you?

    You have sneered at the diplomatic representative of one of Africa's foremost states You damn pompous racist ass--because you're a whitie you think you know more than the Africans. Racist scum.

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    ah horace calm down there are loads of reasons to condemn the nigerian govt. and any representative of it.
    And Colm Ogorman has a record in advocacy, so he is eminently qualified to work for amnesty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    Your level of thinking is so utterly shallow that it is easy to forgive you for the part you are playing in exposing two children to mutilaiton. You are not motivated by base instincts but rather limited by mental capacity. And I make no apology at all for the 'emotive stuff'. That is the bald fact of the matter. And I repeat my postion, if there is a sliver of a possibility that these two children will be mutilated if they are deported, then that must not happen and if it does is speaks very lowly indeed of us as a people.
    BTW, I am not a group, just a person with basic compassion for fellow humans.
    The fact that one of these girls spent 6 of her 10 years in Nigeria and was not mutilated underlines that you are wrong. There is no evidence of parents being forced to inflict FGM on their children by force. PI claims to be opposed to FGM and that her husband is too. In that context, I think these children do not face a threat of FGM. And FGM is a red herring in this case anyway. The wider issue is an attempt by the bleeding-heart brigade - primarily on the Left - to impose an open-borders agenda on this country. In a recession in particular, this is an unacceptable demand. For people like you, every asylum-case is a "special case". But if everyone is a special-case, noone is.

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