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Thread: Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    The extended family consider the adherence to custom is more important than the permission of the parents, they would view not having the children mutilated as akin to socially disenfranchising them and lowering their status in later life, they believe FGM is for the children own good. That mindset is abundant in Nigeria which of course explains FGMs prevalence. Its akin to arranged marriages culturally.
    Then Pamela needs to prove that her in-laws are a threat to her daughters.

    She claims that they have attempted to kidnap her daughters, and that they assaulted her husband when he prevented them from doing so - can she produce a copy of a police report filed about the attempted abduction, some evidence that she and her husband attempted to appeal to the authorities for help? What about a medical report from the doctor who treated her husband for his injuries? What about their alleged involvement in the death of Elizabeth, assuming she exists? Can she show where the grave is so that DNA tests can be done to ascertain whether or not she actually had a daughter who died in 1994?

    Right now, I would say that the ball is in her court. The Supreme Court have given her time to produce evidence to prove her claims. It's up to her to produce it. She is the one who needs to prove that she and her daughters are in need of asylum or subsidiary protection and she is being given the opportunity to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyB View Post
    Then Pamela needs to prove that her in-laws are a threat to her daughters.

    She claims that they have attempted to kidnap her daughters, and that they assaulted her husband when he prevented them from doing so - can she produce a copy of a police report filed about the attempted abduction, some evidence that she and her husband attempted to appeal to the authorities for help? What about a medical report from the doctor who treated her husband for his injuries? What about their alleged involvement in the death of Elizabeth, assuming she exists? Can she show where the grave is so that DNA tests can be done to ascertain whether or not she actually had a daughter who died in 1994?

    Right now, I would say that the ball is in her court. The Supreme Court have given her time to produce evidence to prove her claims. It's up to her to produce it. She is the one who needs to prove that she and her daughters are in need of asylum or subsidiary protection and she is being given the opportunity to do so.
    Even if she produces evidence can it now be seen as reliable considered
    she already has produced fraudulent documents

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    Quote Originally Posted by anlkestony View Post
    Even if she produces evidence can it now be seen as reliable considered
    she already has produced fraudulent documents
    Yes, under the circumstances, any documentation she produced would have to be carefully scrutinized and independently verified before it could be accepted as genuine but, if the documentation she produces is genuine, she should have no fear of it being scrutinized. DNA evidence from Elizabeth's body would be solid, as the government could send people over to Nigeria to observe the body being exhumed and samples being taken, and guard against those samples being interfered with until they could be brought back for testing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyB View Post
    DNA evidence from Elizabeth's body would be solid, as the government could send people over to Nigeria to observe the body being exhumed and samples being taken, and guard against those samples being interfered with until they could be brought back for testing.
    I think that PI mentioned that she did not know where the body was buried and offered a "cultural" explanation for not knowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    I think that PI mentioned that she did not know where the body was buried and offered a "cultural" explanation for not knowing.
    She said that mothers weren't told where their children were buried. Her husband should know, shouldn't he - or is he also culturally prohibited from being told where his daughter's grave is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HollyB View Post
    She said that mothers weren't told where their children were buried. Her husband should know, shouldn't he - or is he also culturally prohibited from being told where his daughter's grave is?
    I thought that she claimed that in her culture mothers do not visit the graves of their dead children. That's a rather convenient get-out. This case depends on the supension of one's critical faculties. The case is based on forged documents. Boucher-Hayes and Antonia Leslie were supposed to be journalists and yet they fell hook, line and sinker for the story. I would not be surprised to see them grab on to this in order to attempt to recover their destroyed credibility. It just looks like a complete 419er scam where the marks cannot accept that they've been scammed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by anlkestony View Post
    Even if she produces evidence can it now be seen as reliable considered she already has produced fraudulent documents
    It is a very tricky problem now that she effectively has no credibility as the result of submitting forged documents. If I am reading the situation correctly, she has to refute the evidence contained in the States's affidavits with proof and evidence. The issue of building the case on the basis of forged documentation remains.

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    When is the next court hearing on this case? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by asset test View Post
    When is the next court hearing on this case? Thanks
    I think it is up for mention on the 30th of April. It is not listed yet in the legal diary for the Supreme Court:
    http://www.courts.ie/legaldiary.nsf/...b?OpenDocument

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    Cheers jmcc

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