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About LinkBacksAnd one of her daughters was safe in Nigeria for 6 years. In other words, she has spent more time in safety in Nigeria than in Ireland.Originally Posted by hopi watcher
And one of her daughters was safe in Nigeria for 6 years. In other words, she has spent more time in safety in Nigeria than in Ireland.
This is a red herring. I have already stated that this case is unique simply because the family are here. The scaremongering, that if a humanitarian decision is taken, this would leave us exposed to a flood of immigrants, is bogus. The government is well capable of acting to meet any such challenges.
Hopi you didnt answer FT's point - how come the daughter who lived in Nigeria for 6 years was not subjected to fgm?
And again, why is Ms I not identifying the relative that allegedly kidnapped and mutilated her deceased daughter.
Why is she not sueing them?
Why, above all, is she clearly not *angry* with them?
Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".
Why is it so hard for you to simply understand basic figures ? The chances of mutilation are 1 in 4 based on figures supplied by the Nigerian government. Others say the the rate is 1 in 2. Whatever figure you take, the fact is, that there is a substantial risk of mutilation for female children in Nigeria. That is a fact. Your gymnastics in this matter betray you.
The government is well capable of acting to meet any such challenges.
And by "acting" you mean send them back to Africa. So you would support such "action"?
I would have thought that the obvious way to deal with such a threat was to stop inward movement. And in case you don't understand, I would not send children to an environment where they are in danger of mutilation. A solution to this problem, should one materialise which I very much doubt, needs to be found and obviously the EU is best placed to do so.
And by her own admission the parents have to consent to the procedure which she stated she did with "Elizabeth" (who we know now did not exist). She stated she consented to it. Obviously she could just say NO. Why has the Nigerian government not prosecuted these maurading In-Laws?
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Nigeria is a country of scores of different ethnic-groups some of which don't practice FGM. In that context, your statistics may be masking far lower probabilities in certain regions, religious and ethnic-groups. That complicates the picture you are trying to present, and it is already in the public-domain that PI's ethnic-group does not practice FGM.
You might as well say that male-circumcision is practiced on 71% of American men (which I understand is true), so Americans should claim asylum in Ireland to escape it. That we don't see that happening underlines that what PI is engaged in is economic-migration.
I again refer you to the UN and Amnesty on the subject and the notion that a mother or father can 'just say no'.It doesn't work like that as FGM has become part and parcel of the 'culture' Most parents do not fully uinderstand the harm that is being caused. Many countries accept flight from FGM as legitimate grounds for asylum.
Still obsessed with money I see. Your comparison between male circumcision and FGM is pathetic. The fact is that you are engaged in guess work and verbal gymnastics here trying desperately to support your warped case to return children to a very dangerous environment. Again I refer you to Un and Amnesty data. Amnesty has already stated that the family must not be sent back.Nigeria is a country of scores of different ethnic-groups some of which don't practice FGM. In that context, your statistics may be masking far lower probabilities in certain regions, religious and ethnic-groups. That complicates the picture you are trying to present, and it is already in the public-domain that PI's ethnic-group does not practice FGM.
You might as well say that male-circumcision is practiced on 71% of American men (which I understand is true), so Americans should claim asylum in Ireland to escape it. That we don't see that happening underlines that what PI is engaged in is economic-migration.
