Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

[scratchnsniff]

Yeah, well that was all you needed. The Irish were so terrified of being called racist that literally the only criteria for getting in & attaching yourself to the gravy train was the ability to have children.

'Got lead in your pencil ? Well welcome to Ireland so.'

Talk about setting the fkn bar low.

Thank Christ McDowell put an end to that.

This moronic suggestion that the Irish people should welcome African kids with no connection to this country because their parents spent years trying to defraud the Irish people is beneath contempt.

How on earth is it beneath contempt to not want to punish two children for the actions of their mother?
Do you have no sense that sociaty should be about protecting children?
I know they dont carry irish passports but they are children and can not be treated as criminals.

[draiocht23]

I respectfully disagree. She lied, cheated, committed forgery, and wasted God knows how much money in her scam/ What is the difference if she is deported with her children or sent to jail for her crimes? The children would be in State care without her. Deport her....

This is far from proven. RTE looked into this a couple of years ago and interviewed the same doctor who is now denying the existence of baby Elizabeth.

When he was interviewed by RTE he confirmed the birth, and the death due to genital mutilation, of this woman's first child.

I wouldn't throw her to the wolves on the basis of an Irish Mirror story - whose "exclusive" has incidentally been covered in a number of other papers today.

[bob3344]

How on earth is it beneath contempt to not want to punish two children for the actions of their mother?
Do you have no sense that sociaty should be about protecting children?
I know they dont carry irish passports but they are children and can not be treated as criminals.

Its punishing Nigerians to send them back to Nigeria ?

Why don't we just draw up a list of the 50 biggest sh1tholes in the world and send Fas over there to tell all the children they can come to Ireland ?

Would that be fair or would their parents have to try and rip us off first ?

Nigeria probably wouldn't even make it onto that list of 50 countries.

Ireland, the tiny country that wants to solve the problems of the world despite the fact that it doesn't have a pot to p1ss in.

Time for some realism.

[pete2]

What about genuine asylum seekers.

Oh you mean people who make a bee line for Ireland and avoid all other areas of safe refuge closer to their starting point? Or do you mean people with literally nowhere else to go?

In the latter case I suppose some means to tell them apart from bogus asylum seekers is needed, something more efficient than what exists now. Perhaps it would be an idea to put such a system in place before dealing with them, and order a retrospective review on all claims of asylum granted under the current shambles. It might also be an idea to gain a commitment from these genuine asylum seekers that they return when whatever situation supposedly drove them here is judged past. It would also be an idea to present a bill to the government of wherever they came from for all the costs incurred.

[Clanrickard]

Guarantee you, when I have kids, I won't want them competing for resources with Africans who have absolutely no right to be here.

Bob you make Irish society sound like Mad Max. The handful of African kids allowed to stay because of the length of time they have been here would be tiny. I doubt you'd even meet them.

[Kevin Doyle]

Wow, negative rep and called a fool by 'Actuallyyourwrong' for asking a question?

Laughable.

[scratchnsniff]

Its punishing Nigerians to send them back to Nigeria ?

Why don't we just draw up a list of the 50 biggest sh1tholes in the world and send Fas over there to tell all the children they can come to Ireland ?

Would that be fair or would their parents have to try and rip us off first ?

Nigeria probably wouldn't even make it onto that list of 50 countries.

Ireland, the tiny country that wants to solve the problems of the world despite the fact that it doesn't have a pot to p1ss in.

Time for some realism.

Well realism would be knowing the difference between everything you just wrote and the fate of two children who know no other country but this one.
Realisam would be reading my previouse posts and seeing that i believe that the process should be changed to stop this from happening again.
Realisam would be examining a case on its own facts and acknowledging the reality of two kids resident in Ireland for years.
Realisam is acknowledging that children should not be punished for the crimes of their mother.

I know why dont we stop patronising other peoples views by pretending we are the only ones in touch with reality. (leave that for debating the RSF wackos)

[Horace Horse]

I agree - a message should be sent to Nigeria. Unfortunately this lying scam artist would simply use her children (again) to try & escape the consequences of her actions.

As we have seen, over & over again, there are many Irish people who are only too willing to believe any horrific story about Africa as a basis for asylum - 'they're going to chop the kids up & make a stew out of them cos thats what they do in Nigeria ! ' - and at the same time believe that they are unprejudiced & everyone else is racist -.

Quite right. But it's actually these clowns who are the racists, because they create and circulate vile and vicious slanders about African countries.

Clanrickard--as nasty a racist as we've seen on this site.
And a bit of an idiot to boot!

[pete2]

Ive no doubt she will be laughing if allowed to stay, But this is why we must be the bigger better people and not take out our natural distaste and anger on her children.

Am I wrong? If her children stay she will stay, isn't that how it works? Isn't this why Ireland is so popular? Or are you proposing her children go into the care of the state?

[joemoran]

This case has cost the taxpayer tens of thousands of euro on legal bills and was premised on manifestly false evidence.

Would that this was so. In actual fact this scammer has cost the state over one million euro in legal expenses alone according to this morning's paper. With the European Court still to come. This does not include food, accomodation, medical expenses etc etc etc. This is after her contributing precisely zero in to the system. Meanwhile the family of Cian O Cuanachain face economic ruin.