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Thread: Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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    If those children were white-skinned this argument would be totally different. That really is end of story.
    You played the race card. By suggesting race was the issue you label all of those who oppose this fraudulent application for asylum as racists. Not only is that despicable in itself but it plays into the hands of actual racists by diluting the meaning of the word.

    It is impossible to have a reasonable discussion with people who won't accept the logical conclusion of their position and resort to dishonest name-calling instead of rational argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    They must understand that there is nothing for them to gain electorally from supporting bogus asylum-seekers.
    What a putrid place you occupy. Can you not comprehend that people, normal , sane, decent people are motivated in the case not with any self gain,but with protecting two children from mutilation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408 View Post
    Pamela Izevbekhai, subsidiary protection, sligo, family, Nigeria, judge, ireland, dublin, help is just one organisation but I'm weary now. I knew from years ago that there's no real point in discussing issues of race with people who have their minds already made up.

    Regarding the father point. Do you have children? I thought not. One would move heaven and earth to be with those kids but their father hasn't.

    My final word on this topic tonight is this: I don't really care if Pamela lied. Your mother would lie to make a better life for you. If she didn't we'd be calling her a useless Ma. Notwithstanding the fact that we don't know if Pamela actually lied (personally I think she did) I would have no respect for her as a mother if she didn't do her best to protect her children.

    If those children were white-skinned this argument would be totally different. That really is end of story.
    Myself and my African wife have a child and we agree that PI should be deported and/or jailed for what she has done. It has nothing to do with skin colour.

    You are a clear cut case of a liberal PC nutter. It's people like you who do the Immigrant case more harm than good in the way you wind up the
    Irish people with your wishy washy liberal love everything Bull$hit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev408 View Post
    Oops Merle...you're looking for honesty there. Ain't gonna happen.
    Particularly with foul-mouthed Trots around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trampas View Post
    Particularly with foul-mouthed Trots around.
    I am sure 'Trots'(whatever they are) would have no problem living with being called 'foul mouthed' clear in the knowledge that they have neither said anything or did anything that would expose two children to mutilation.

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    The falsification of documents by Pamela Izevbekhai was wrong and has probably fatally undermined her case. The argument has been put about that allowing her and her children to stay could set a precedent for future cases. Perhaps that is correct but that is a debate for another day. Should she have claimed asylum at her first point of entry to the EU? Yes. But we are where we are and there is a moral question which we must confront.

    The bottom line is we, the Irish state, will decide whether these two children are returned to Nigeria. By the figures provided by the Nigerian government themselves to the UN, the prevalence of FGM nationwide is 32.6% (on average 40% in urban areas and 29% in rural areas) and rises as high as 65% in some areas. FGM is a brutal act of torture. Whether Pamela Izevbekhai falsified documents has no bearing on these prevalence rates. That is the level of risk these two children will be exposed to. In all conscience I believe the moral impertative supercedes the legal imperative in this case and I could not support sending these children back to a country where they would be exposed to such a high risk of torture. They should be allowed to stay.

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    Living in Limbo ? woman who fled Nigeria to save her daughters from FGM : womensgrid

    This is a more detailed account of Pamelas tragic situation than any I have read to date. This woman has sacrificed country, comfortable home, husband, son, extended family and lifestyle to live as a single parent in a dormitory on a pittance. If she's not doing it to keep her girls safe I can think of no other sensible reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    Living in Limbo ? woman who fled Nigeria to save her daughters from FGM : womensgrid

    This is a more detailed account of Pamelas tragic situation than any I have read to date. This woman has sacrificed country, comfortable home, husband, son, extended family and lifestyle to live as a single parent in a dormitory on a pittance. If she's not doing it to keep her girls safe I can think of no other sensible reason.
    She wasn’t invited here, she came here illegally, and she is not wanted except by a few idiotic PC do-gooders. Kick her and her children out IMMEDIATELY. Irish workers have no jobs and no hope; we should not be wasting money on unwanted aliens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imokyrok View Post
    Living in Limbo ? woman who fled Nigeria to save her daughters from FGM : womensgrid

    This is a more detailed account of Pamelas tragic situation than any I have read to date. This woman has sacrificed country, comfortable home, husband, son, extended family and lifestyle to live as a single parent in a dormitory on a pittance. If she's not doing it to keep her girls safe I can think of no other sensible reason.
    There may not be a sensible reason - or if there is we may never know what it is.

    Here's an idea; how about we just enforce the law?

    And here's a question; is there any other country on Earth that would have let this drag out for so long?
    Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".

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    [QUOTE=amen corner;1545875]She wasn’t invited here, she came here illegally, and she is not wanted except by a few idiotic PC do-gooders. Kick her and her children out IMMEDIATELY. Irish workers have no jobs and no hope; we should not be wasting money on unwanted aliens.[/

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    You don't understand the concept of asylum seeking do you amen? I always find the pejorative use of the term "do-gooder" amusing. What would you prefer others to be? Do-evilers? - or do you have than one sown up yourself?
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