Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

[Kevin Doyle]

It is well attested that asylum claims surged along with the celtic tiger.

And the % of them on the grounds of FGM are?

How many where actually granted on the grounds of FGM.

Thus far quite a few posters have forwarded the proposition that allowing asylum under FGM would trigger a flood of Nigerians at our airports claiming such.

Now, as you have contested, FGM is indeed a valid reason for asylum so it becomes even more important to actually establish the numbers involved.

[Eorna]

Given that Naomi and Jemima are daughters of parents who are opposed to the practice and who have the means to relocate, if necessary, and since they don't seem to be members of a tribe, wouldn't they be at less risk than other Nigerian girls whose parents approve of the practice or who are members of a tribe that would force it on them?

As far as the alleged risk from the in-laws is concerned, if the extended Izevbekhai family are as powerful and as determined as Pamela has claimed, it surprises me that no attempt on their part to abduct the girls from Ireland has been reported. It is well-publicized that they live at Globe House in Sligo, and I doubt that there are so many primary schools in the vicinity that determined kidnappers could not snatch the girls (whose faces aren't even blurred when their pictures are published - I'd keep their faces out of the media if they were my daughters and I had reason to believe that they were at risk!) if they wanted to.

All very true. Pamela needs the faces to be visible, so that she can use them to incite sympathy from an unsuspecting public. As D.Harry says, that it is unproven if she lied, as she may have as she insists received the forged documents unwittingly. The burden of proof should not be on the state,how can the state fully investigate every claim.There has been no genuine evidence presented that her daughter ever existed, her claims re coming via Amsterdam, have been shown to be false. I hope that Pamela, does not try to elicit sympathy for a new application by harming one of the girls, when she arrives back in Nigeria.

[Horace Horse]

You're reverting back to type.

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If anyone, and I mean anyone demanded my daughter have her genitals tampered with so as to make her more acceptable to some misogynist custom I would do anything I could to prevent it, including lying, stealing, cheating, swindling and if the need was warranted killing.

Threats of violence have no place in rational debate.

Shame on you.

[Horace Horse]

Now Horace,

That kind of talk is not getting us anywhere. The unanswerable fact is that Nigeria is very high on the list of corrupt nations. The last election was held by all independent observers to be corrupt and undemocratic. FGM is practiced to a high incidence there. Just look at the US State Department report or the UN reports.

However, none of that is authority for the proposition that anyone landing here from Nigeria with kids should not be sent back without proof of actual personal risk.

No, you're out of order. FT and I agree on this: all the pseudo-multiculturalists who have extolled the benefits of importing huge numbers of foreigners are now falling over themselves to slander and denigrate an aspect of the culture of one of Africa's premier nations.

That's racism, regardless of how sanctimonious are the racists who express this hypcorisy. As I indicated the two guys obsessing about this here are objectively racists, since they waste no opportunity to insult and demean Africans.

[Horace Horse]

All very true.
There has been no genuine evidence presented that her daughter ever existed, her claims re coming via Amsterdam, have been shown to be false. I hope that Pamela, does not try to elicit sympathy for a new application by harming one of the girls, when she arrives back in Nigeria.

That's a troubling thought. Would the Pamelites on this site then advance that as a reason to stop the deportation, if Pamela threatens to harm her children if they are deported?

[Eorna]

That's a troubling thought. Would the Pamelites on this site then advance that as a reason to stop the deportation, if Pamela threatens to harm her children if they are deported?

There is no doubt that she is capable of anything, that is why I would like to see the children returned to the care of the father, and send Pammie back shortly after, once she adjusts to the idea.

[corelli]

No, you're out of order. FT and I agree on this: all the pseudo-multiculturalists who have extolled the benefits of importing huge numbers of foreigners are now falling over themselves to slander and denigrate an aspect of the culture of one of Africa's premier nations.

That's racism, regardless of how sanctimonious are the racists who express this hypcorisy. As I indicated the two guys obsessing about this here are objectively racists, since they waste no opportunity to insult and demean Africans.

It may well be one of Africa's premier State's but that is not saying much, Horace. It's an absolute kip where corruption is endemic. You can't be sane and rational and hold any other view. Mind you, I am saying that with a Western bias inbuilt.

I repeat, again, however, that just because it is a bad place is not authority for the proposition that we can't send people back there.

First principle of international law. Every State is entitled to regulate its borders!!

[Odyessus]

There is no doubt that she is capable of anything, that is why I would like to see the children returned to the care of the father, and send Pammie back shortly after, once she adjusts to the idea.

This is nonsense. There is no reason to think the mother would harm her own children. She may be a liar and a fraud, but that is no reason to believe she is "capable of anything".

[corelli]

This is nonsense. There is no reason to think the mother would harm her own children. She may be a liar and a fraud, but that is no reason to believe she is "capable of anything".

Would agree with that. That's a rather disgusting suggestion. There are those of us who are capable of having a rational discussion on this issue, and those that would prefer to inflame matters with off the wall fanciful theories.

[sandar]

Would agree with that. That's a rather disgusting suggestion. There are those of us who are capable of having a rational discussion on this issue, and those that would prefer to inflame matters with off the wall fanciful theories.

I agree with that totally.