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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    You know what, I wasn't aware of that. At least that shuts up the precedent brigade on the grounds of allow asylum for FGM. According to them Nigeria should now be practically empty with Ireland being trampled under the heels of Nigerians.

    In any case, I haven’t seen any evident forwarded by anyone to suggest these children will be safe upon their deportation to Nigeria. In fact, given the level f publicity this case has attracted both here and internationally, I suspect their well being is in even greater danger
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    FGM is most certainly acceptable as a ground but, as I said, you have to prove it to the relevant authorities. That has not been done, to date. You cannot merely land up and make an assertion of FGM and, mirabile dictu, you can live happily ever after.

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    Write to the Minister to press for her deportation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    I thought the father was deported from the UK?

    I don't know whether he has been or not, but I do know that the family was granted a multi-visit visa by the U.K. in June 2004. There are direct flights from Lagos to London. You figure it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    Well if the multiculturalists claim that all cultures are equally valid then they have to accept that that includes Nigerian culture. Personally, I abhore FGM, but regard the multiculturalists as hypocritical for criticising Nigerian culture while supporting allowing Nigerians to remain in Ireland in the name of multiculturalism - which is one argument the liberals use on asylum-generally.
    Multi-culturism does not mean that illegal practices are or should be permitted. The host country allows certain leeway for practices the indigenous population would consider strange or perhaps immoral (such as arranged marriages) but that does not in any way allow outright assault as permissible.

    No amount of multicultural flexibility allows actual bodily harm in contrivance with the laws of the land. It doesn’t permit bigamy, scarring etc etc

    I think you don’t know what multi-culturism means and are ascribing it symptoms that are not relevant. MC doesn’t mean usurpation of the law of the land.

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach View Post
    I note you haven't answered my other question. Why weren't they coming here in the 1980s?
    Well corelli has just pointed out to me that FGM is in fact just cause to claim asylum in this country. Ironically there seems to be no question to answer at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    Multi-culturism does not mean that illegal practices are or should be permitted. The host country allows certain leeway for practices the indigenous population would consider strange or perhaps immoral (such as arranged marriages) but that does not in any way allow outright assault as permissible.

    No amount of multicultural flexibility allows actual bodily harm in contrivance with the laws of the land. It doesn’t permit bigamy, scarring etc etc

    I think you don’t know what multi-culturism means and are ascribing it symptoms that are not relevant. MC doesn’t mean usurpation of the law of the land.



    Well corelli has just pointed out to me that FGM is in fact just cause to claim asylum in this country. Ironically there seems to be no question to answer at all.
    It is well attested that asylum claims surged along with the celtic tiger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eorna View Post
    As a socialist,
    As a what now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    Multi-culturism does not mean that illegal practices are or should be permitted. The host country allows certain leeway for practices the indigenous population would consider strange or perhaps immoral (such as arranged marriages) but that does not in any way allow outright assault as permissible.

    No amount of multicultural flexibility allows actual bodily harm in contrivance with the laws of the land. It doesn’t permit bigamy, scarring etc etc

    I think you don’t know what multi-culturism means and are ascribing it symptoms that are not relevant. MC doesn’t mean usurpation of the law of the land.



    Well corelli has just pointed out to me that FGM is in fact just cause to claim asylum in this country. Ironically there seems to be no question to answer at all.

    Well, none that you can answer, anyway.

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    Well corelli has just pointed out to me that FGM is in fact just cause to claim asylum in this country. Ironically there seems to be no question to answer at all.
    Yes there is. Why weren't people like her coming to Ireland to claim asylum in the 1980s? Is it economic grounds? Does that not show the system is being abused by the majority of claimants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    Well, none that you can answer, anyway.
    None that anyone can answer.

    Look at the question, whats being asked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyessus View Post
    I don't know whether he has been or not, but I do know that the family was granted a multi-visit visa by the U.K. in June 2004.
    Which would have been immediately revoked upon the father’s deportation.

    It seems the question has now gained significant importance in that regard.
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