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About LinkBacksIm glad to see the privileged elitist mary robinson with serious egg on her face.
Im glad to see the privileged elitist mary robinson with serious egg on her face.
Ok so its relevant but not conclusive.Originally Posted by corelli
And is the claim a sworn document(in other words lying in the basus if your claim can you get into legal difficulty for doing it).
You can be prosecuted. It's an offense to procure or present a false document in the course of an asylum claim. It also means your claim is out the window on credibility grounds.
If the Gardai have had this information I wonder why it is only now being presented. To create the biggest egg on face perhaps. Would not blame them particularly. Possibly it has just come to their attention. If so it does go to show the limited investigation that goes into claims.
In fairness, her claim was investigated by the Refugee Applications Commissioner and found not to be credible and this was upheld at appeal. The authorities got it right. They can't be expected to authenticate each document which is presented to them from countries thousands of miles away. On top of which, if there is an allegation of state persecution/collusion in persecution, legally the country of asylum cannot involve the state of origin in authenticating documents (to protect actual and genuine refugees). The gardai only got this information recently, they sent over a Detective Inspector from GNIB to investigate it. Imagine we had to pay for a Garda Inspector to fly all the way to Lagos to run an investigation all because this woman is judicially reviewing the state at every given opportunity!
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They should never have been allowed to stay but they have been here for a number of years so the humanitarian thing is to let them stay. These girls call Ireland home. Inflicting misery on them by returning them to a country they don't know is not going make an iota of difference. We can't take every one in who claims to be in danger or barbaric practices but if they are here let them stay. The amount will be small. Visibly kick out the liars and make sure all cases are looked into and decided within a reasonably length of time like say 5 months. If it drags on kids get settled. If they are here longer than 3 years let them stay as long as they get a job and behave themselves.
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I would ask the following question -
What is an asylum seeker and why do they seek asylum?
I do not agree with lying and deception in seeking asylum so I am definitely against the current applicant succeeding, if her claims have been falsified.
However, look at the world today, who would seek asylum now.... Iraqis, Sudanese, Burmese, etc. etc. Why have we a large number of Nigerians and very few of those in conflict zones or famine areas?
I would argue that non Nigerians may seek asylum, sure, but may go to countries other than Ireland, for example, Moroccans and Tunisians might choose France from the colonial heritage. etc. But Nigeria is a former English colony, so why do they not go there first? ... hmmmm maybe the UK is too clued in and doesn't offer the same supports.
The amount of Nigerians claiming asylum here amazes me in comparison to those from other countries in conflict zones where all the populace is in danger man woman and child.
That is why I am suspicious of Nigerian asysum seekers. I do not believe their lives are in that much danger that they cannot go to a neighbouring African State or even England.
But would that move give them what they want?
Someone please tell me why, if Ireland is such a soft touch, we haven't had swathes of Iraqis, Afghanis etc. Can they afford it, or do they want it?
But what if it were true? Do you agree with the principle that children at risk from FGM should not be deported?
this attitude will only result in the next nigerian chancer deciding to drag things out as long as possible in the hope of using the old 'will no-one think of the children' routine.
I would favour sending this woman to prison & packing her kids off to the father wherever he is conducting his asylum scam.
Is not the case at present one where she only still remains here as she went to court over the issue at every available opportunity? That hardly fits your humanitarian criteria, one presumes?
I have great sympathy for her little kids who only really know Ireland as home. However, the Irish State cannot be blamed for that if she was telling porkies. It will be entirely her fault. If she was telling lies then she should, as a signal that dishonesty will not be tolerated, be deported forthwith. Unfortunately that means her children too, though presumably they can go to England to live with their Father if she is so concerned about FGM.
