Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

[jmcc]

No one is saying we have to let them all in. Personally in this specific case Izevbekhai and her kids should be allowed to stay as an exceptional case because of the publicity it has garnered internationally may put her and her children in danger. Other than that FGM on its own shouldn't be grounds for entry.

I don't think it is going to work out that way. There has been abject fraud and deception in this case and it is an ideal one with which to make a political statement. That statement, that Ireland will not have its asylum system abused by scammers, is, perhaps, long over due. The problem with this type of politics is that it is less selective than having a properly run asylum system in the first place.

Regards...jmcc

[Clanrickard]

I don't think it is going to work out that way. There has been abject fraud and deception in this case and it is an ideal one with which to make a political statement. That statement, that Ireland will not have its asylum system abused by scammers, is, perhaps, long over due. The problem with this type of politics is that it is less selective than having a properly run asylum system in the first place.

Regards...jmcc

It seems she has lied and the courts have said she doesn't have a case. She should be punished if she knowingly committed fraud. What happens if she is returned to Nigeria and she winds up dead along with her kids? What kind of statement will that make? Think it couldn't happen? Well it does in Nigeria regularly. Ireland has no direct link by air or sea with Nigeria so it should be an easy matter to return people to the European country they came from. As has been pointed out FGM is a basis for asylum in some EU countries yet they are not swamped with applicants.

[Clanrickard]

I think I'll give up. I have said all I can say on this. It is down to the minister.

[selfemployedmar]

Yes but that would completely destroy the myth that many of these people are asylum seekers rather than economic migrants who may be purely targeting the social welfare system. That's the difference that you don't appear to understand. The Irish people who went to the US in the 1980s went there to work rather than for the social welfare benefits. What would you say to implementing your idea but without the rights to social welfare or state support?

Regards...jmcc

The people on the run from the NI troubles were seeking asylum..and got the right to work and live there which came in the form of an amnestity. Irish American Lawyers worked around the legalities on this, knowing that a lot of the names were alias and documents were falsified. There were a huge amount of them and quite a few with dodgy backgrounds, so dont be fooled by this. Irish girls had babies out there and did draw on welfare, this was given to the Irish Catholic Charities, they also opened a hospital in Manhattan so that the Irish Illegals get medical help, and opened clinics in various burrows, so that the Irish kids could be immunised.
The Irish started a movement called the Irish Immigrant Group which called on our Irish TD.s etc to help lobby congress for change and more benefits for the Irish.
You dont seem to understand that the Irish in the USA in particular have done exactly what this lady did..So I refuse to sit in judgement, she comes from a corrupt country and to make a better life for herself took courage to go to those extremes..

[hopi watcher]

Agreed. Nothing can distract the naive do-gooders from their crazy cause...Deluded fools.

The names are like water off a duck coming from where they do. What cause could possibly be served by exposing two childfren to mutilation?

[selfemployedmar]

I was a member of this particular Immigrant group in the 80's and believe you me the lies that were told to seek rights in the USA would make the hair stand on your head.

[sandar]

We often disagree on things and have argued on matters not related to this particular issue but I can safely say on this we are 100% in agreement.

Suffice to say I'd imagine the thing we have in common is that we are both fathers.

what basis have you for calling the Nigerian AG a liar? And Pamela has no need to go to Nigeria she has a redfidency permit for the UK which is hers to take up at any time, people mentioning Nigeria are deliberately misleading at this stage.

[Kevin Doyle]

what basis have you for calling the Nigerian AG a liar?

He's an official from one of the most corrupt governments on the planet.

What basis have you to believe a word that comes out of his mouth considering the damage FGM causes his countries international image?

[sandar]

He does not deny that FGm occurs in his country, and since it does occur I guess thats evidence of him telling the truth.
The post which you made above driectly called him a liar in relation to this case, since the only thing he has said in relation to this case has been bacjked up by Pammy herself(who is an admitted liar) I think in relation to this case wqe can establish that he has not lied, and she has.
And will you accept that this woman can go to the UK if she wants and therefore the whole issue of FGM and Nigeria is irrelevant in relation to her case.

[jmcc]

He's an official from one of the most corrupt governments on the planet.

So it is fine for you to accuse people of racism while you indulge in near racist generalisations? We have a specific case of fraud complete with forged documents and interviews with bogus doctors but generalisations are so much easier and less likely to be questioned.

Regards...jmcc