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Thread: Irish Mirror Exclusive - Izevbekhai FGM story a lie

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin Doyle View Post
    From what I can see, people here are terrified of those fleeing FGM being considered justifyable candidates for asylum. In my view they are.
    How do you suggest that this Republic manage the potentially very large numbers of (in particular Nigerian) women that in your view are justifiable candidates for asylum?

    Do we simply accept all who can establish that (for example) they come from a region where fgm is prevalent?

    It reads to me like an open-ended commitment - one that we can offer but not deliver. A very Irish failing.
    Mr Gormley described calls for the resignation of his cabinet colleague as "absolute nonsense". He said Mr Lenihan was doing "a very good job under exceptionally difficult circumstances".

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    Quote Originally Posted by b.a. baracus View Post
    This lady has lied and perjured herself and it is now highly probable that she did not have a female child who died of FGM. She has admitted to fraud. There is no evidence that her children will face FGM on return to Nigeria. Kneecapping is practiced in Ireland but that doesnt mean I face the danger of it happening to me.


    Wake up.
    The children are innocent and the facts, repeat the facts, indicate a very high prevelance of FGM in Nigeria and so all young females are at risk. And this arguement that we must expose these childfren to this danger otherwise we will have to accommodate all the females that live there is bogus and silly. These two children are here and we can take the danger out of their lives or place in very real danger. Pressure must be brought to bear on the Nigerian government to stamp out this vile practise and this case is applying such pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopi watcher View Post
    The children are innocent and the facts, repeat the facts, indicate a very high prevelance of FGM in Nigeria and so all young females are at risk. And this arguement that we must expose these childfren to this danger otherwise we will have to accommodate all the females that live there is bogus and silly. These two children are here and we can take the danger out of their lives or place in very real danger.
    What danger? Where is the proof of the danger other than Ms Iz. own statements. She is a perjurer who has committed fraud, why should we accept anything she says?
    Why have you not addressed the rest of my post? Because you dont have an answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmcc View Post
    I think that Ireland may well be ideally set up for such a RW turn. A lot of the population has benefited over the past few years and living standards have improved. Now the recession hits and the standard of living is about to fall. People, a lot of whom have never experienced difficulty in getting a job, will now be facing redundancy and having to rely on social welfare. They will see the taxes that they paid going to support people whom they will consider not to have any rights to be here (regardless of what the laws say).



    Regards...jmcc
    Ireland needs to do what the USA did in the 80's for the illegal irish. Government allowed them a 00 social security number so that they could work and pay their taxes while applying for this amnestity or morrison visa's/ It worked very well. This would make a huge difference illegals in this country would prefer to work as did the irish in the US.
    The irish illegals are going to be hunted out of the USA as the new redundant americans will have the very same feelings as you have mentioned above, and we will have an outcry from our government here. However we dont have the same generosity to the illegals in this country. We forget where we came from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b.a. baracus View Post
    What danger? Where is the proof of the danger other than Ms Iz. own statements. She is a perjurer who has committed fraud, why should we accept anything she says?
    Why have you not addressed the rest of my post? Because you dont have an answer?
    Read the Times report today, log on to UN site, get the facts for yourself. Nigeria has the 4th highest prevelance of FGM in the world with a rate of 25.1%, that is every 4th female born in that counbtry is subjected to this barbarity. In some areas, it is as high as 65%, that is 2 out of every 3 female children are mutilated. And you see no problem sending two children into that environmernt???

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    how many of the 130m should we take hopi ?

    Amnesty International estimates that over 130 million women worldwide have been affected by some form of FGM, with over 2 million procedures being performed every year.
    Female genital cutting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    don't bother with the bleating, just give me a rough figure.

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    [QUOTE=b.a. baracus;1536891]This lady has lied and perjured herself and it is now highly probable that she did not have a female child who died of FGM. She has admitted to fraud. There is no evidence that her children will face FGM on return to Nigeria. Kneecapping is practiced in Ireland but that doesnt mean I face the danger of it happening to me.

    Obviously it was out of sheer desperation for her to come up with such a story. I dont agree with what she did, however people do very extreme things when they want to make a better life for themselves..I was once an illegal living in the USA and falsefied documents were the norm in the irish community. Why? Because people wanted a better life, unless people have been in her shoes dont comment and be quick to judge

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    The deluded few can shout away all they like....the decision to deport her has already been made. She will have no legal representation on Friday and there is no way the Minister will give any form of leave to remain. She could even go to jail and then be deported....it is an offence to submit false documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfemployedmar View Post
    Obviously it was out of sheer desperation for her to come up with such a story. I dont agree with what she did, however people do very extreme things when they want to make a better life for themselves..I was once an illegal living in the USA and falsefied documents were the norm in the irish community. Why? Because people wanted a better life, unless people have been in her shoes dont comment and be quick to judge
    Great, so if you'd murdered or raped someone during your time in the states, presumably it would be unfair of the Irish nation to exclude foreign rapists or murderers.

    The fact that you broke a few laws doesn't mean sh1t to this country.

    SHE. IS. A. MIDDLE. CLASS. NIGERIAN. FRAUD. ARTIST.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfemployedmar View Post
    Ireland needs to do what the USA did in the 80's for the illegal irish. Government allowed them a 00 social security number so that they could work and pay their taxes while applying for this amnestity or morrison visa's/ It worked very well.
    Yes but that would completely destroy the myth that many of these people are asylum seekers rather than economic migrants who may be purely targeting the social welfare system. That's the difference that you don't appear to understand. The Irish people who went to the US in the 1980s went there to work rather than for the social welfare benefits. What would you say to implementing your idea but without the rights to social welfare or state support?

    Regards...jmcc

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