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About LinkBacksYeah, you're probably right!Originally Posted by keepitreal
No cage for me though thanks. Its only a discussion forum here not like it has any bearing on anything.
Yeah, you're probably right!
No cage for me though thanks. Its only a discussion forum here not like it has any bearing on anything.
Yeah, you're probably right!
No cage for me though thanks. Its only a discussion forum here not like it has any bearing on anything.
I think that salient point is utterly lost on many who appear to think the mere appearance of their words in print will in some way influence the relevant authorities in the matter.
These threads are a good place to vent which means ultimately any discussion is drowned in a sea of racist nonsense and calls for blood.
Voters don't decide issues, they decide who will decide issues.
George Will
Perhaps you should explain that to Madam.
From what I can see, the decision and, perhaps, the arrangements have probably been made. Ireland may be about to change from having a rather lax and badly run asylum system that benefits scammers rather than genuine asylum seekers. This may actually win FF votes in many areas and with unemployment levels set to rise, the reduction of the social welfare spending is a necessity.
Regards...jmcc
Don't take it to heart, facts are not welcome on this thread. Just in case anyone missed the important bit, here it is,
"Amnesty International’s Irish section yesterday reiterated its view that Nigeria cannot protect girls from genital mutilation. “This is clear from the Nigerian government’s own statements to the UN in 2006 and again in 2008,” said Colm O’Gorman, its executive director. “The claim that genital mutilation is not a problem in Nigeria, or that the Nigerian state can protect girls from it, is absolutely false.”"
That arises from tendencies of RW ideology in some respects gaining ground in recessionary times, a well documented occurance as the fear and uncertainty of a largely politically sterile populace are taken advantage of.
Weeding out scammers is one thing, actively condemning all those arriving here from a certain country is quite another. You may not be guilty of such but many of the contributors on this thread most certainly are.
From what I can see, people here are terrified of those fleeing FGM being considered justifyable candidates for asylum. In my view they are.
Voters don't decide issues, they decide who will decide issues.
George Will
I think that Ireland may well be ideally set up for such a RW turn. A lot of the population has benefited over the past few years and living standards have improved. Now the recession hits and the standard of living is about to fall. People, a lot of whom have never experienced difficulty in getting a job, will now be facing redundancy and having to rely on social welfare. They will see the taxes that they paid going to support people whom they will consider not to have any rights to be here (regardless of what the laws say).
The real impact will be in the areas that have not benefited from the Celtic Tiger and where there have been excessive levels of immigration. While I don't see the situation degenerating into full scale rioting in the near future, the next twelve months is going to make the fracture lines in Irish society far more visible. The parallels with the Weimar Republic and the rise of the Nazi Party are uncomfortably real.
Regards...jmcc
This lady has lied and perjured herself and it is now highly probable that she did not have a female child who died of FGM. She has admitted to fraud. There is no evidence that her children will face FGM on return to Nigeria. Kneecapping is practiced in Ireland but that doesnt mean I face the danger of it happening to me.
On this basis what you are saying is that we should accept every Nigerian family (and presumably families from every other state in the world which may or may not have FGM) with a female child who arrives here claiming "asylum". Im sorry to break it to you but what happens in Nigeria is not Ireland's problem. That may appear heartless but the simple fact is that a person fleeing from Nigeria on the basis of persecution/FGM should not end up in Ireland. If you were fleeing Ireland would you end up in Nigeria? You know that the answer is no. Nigerians who come to Ireland are overwhelmingly middle class asylum tourists. The vast majority of Nigerians cannot afford international flights. We are being taken for the biggest ride of our lives. If this lady is permitted to stay then the doors are open to anybody. Forget about exceptional cases etc etc. the same hoo-haa will be raised next time by the same loony do-gooders and the next person will be allowed to stay and the next ad nauseum. Ireland is a small nation on the periphery of Europe, we should not be accepting any asylum applications from anyone in Africa (except UNHCR re-settlement programme refugees). Ireland cannot solve the problem of FGM, the only people who can are the countries in which it is practiced. We can certainly provide assistance in this regard but taking in all these countries peoples is not that solution.
Wake up.
That's why it is so very important to challenge those with national socialist views at every opportunity. The lesson from the Nazi era is that when good people say nothing, bad people appear correct.
...condemning all those arriving here from a certain country...
The "certain country" being the U.K.
Race has only been brought into it by Mrs. Izevbekhai's supporters like yourself. Who's blood are you calling for?
