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    Exodus of senior gardai

    Several senior Gardai have signalled their intention to retire from an Garda Siochana very shortly without reaching the maximum age.

    Has this mass retirement been prompted by the threat of a pension levy?

    Has it been prompted by disillusionment in that they have played second
    fiddle to many more senior Gardai yet may have been overlooked for promotion?

    Is there disillusionment over the direction An Garda Siochana is taking?

    Or are they getting out while the going is good?

    Whatever the reasons it is unprecedented in the Garda Siochana.

    Will it lead to more early retirements?

    Detective Chief Superintendent Tim Maher has been security advisor to Deputy Commissioners and assistant commissioners.

    Chief Superintendent Dave Roche was personal assistant to two Commissioners.

    Detective Superintendent P.J. Browne was an investigator in the Kerry Babies case in Kerry in the early eighties.

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    In any decent police force you may have had some of these Officers sacked a long time ago for the controversies in which they have been involved in . Maybe the Gardai will get serious and appoint some genuine officers to senior positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realistic1 View Post
    In any decent police force you may have had some of these Officers sacked a long time ago for the controversies in which they have been involved in . Maybe the Gardai will get serious and appoint some genuine officers to senior positions.
    I assume that your reference is to Garda Officers in general who have been involved in controversy.

    The problem that I see here is that the positions vacated by these officers will be filled by political appointees as all promotions above inspector are at the whim of the politicians.

    Will this be good or bad?
    See link to Indo here
    Fear over garda retirements - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie

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    Quote Originally Posted by perprojustice View Post
    I assume that your reference is to Garda Officers in general who have been involved in controversy.

    The problem that I see here is that the positions vacated by these officers will be filled by political appointees as all promotions above inspector are at the whim of the politicians.

    Will this be good or bad?
    See link to Indo here
    Fear over garda retirements - National News, Frontpage - Independent.ie
    Did not realise that promotions above inspectors were political appointees, Is this a good thing??

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    Could someone explain the nuts and bolts of the Garda promotion system ?
    How do Gardai go forward for promotion ? Examination +Interview +series of Interviews +makweup of Interview Boards +who appoints the Board Members ?
    Could we get some insights ?
    The present Commissioner seems like a good operator though.

    Mention of the likes of the Kerry Babies case would not exactly fill Sean Citizen with either comfort or confidence. Some strange goings on there, many would say. But I've heard somewhere that in the aftermath of that bizarre case, a number of the underperforming and overzealous Guardai in the case were sidelined and 'housed' for a long time and most of them never again shone in their careers.
    Wonder how some of them came by their appointments in the first place but it's too long ago now to expect any good explanation of that.

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    They're trying to scurry from the sinking ship and before their pay is cut and their 150% final salary golden handshake (at age 50) isn't half as attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Factorem View Post
    They're trying to scurry from the sinking ship and before their pay is cut and their 150% final salary golden handshake (at age 50) isn't half as attractive.
    Spot on. They are taking the 1.5 times final salary gratuity on retirement before the IMF comes into scrap it and the 50pc pension is that more attractive in the light of the pension levy.

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    not just the gardai

    prison wardens too!

    army guys will probably be next...

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    That all sounds fairly healthy, some turnover is good for any organisation.
    Yeah, Í´d say they sat down did the sums and thought they might as well quit while ahead. More power to them. More golf time!!

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