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    Death penalty?

    The Thais appeared to have shown commendable speed in apprehending the murderers of Katherine Horton. It would also appear that there is a strong likelihood that they will be executed.

    Meanwhile the six people who raped and murdered Mary-Anne Leneghan in Reading go on trial today.

    Both crimes were equally horrific. Are they both equally deserving of the ultimate sanction of death?

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    very difficult question to answer.

    i am against the death penalty but sometimes can understand why it exists. some people are beyond redemption and their crimes are so grevious that the death penalty seems appropriate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zakalwe
    very difficult question to answer.

    i am against the death penalty but sometimes can understand why it exists. some people are beyond redemption and their crimes are so grevious that the death penalty seems appropriate.
    Like Paedophaelia?? I heard recently of a man in England who pleaded guilty to raping a 7 month old baby. I haven't been so disgusted in my life. Does this warrant the death penalty? Unusually for myself I'd say it does.
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    If there was a death penalty, I'd expect it for mass murder and not other horrendous crimes like the one mentioned above. An eye for an eye and all of that....
    That's complete nonsense. I disagree with you.

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    I think there are crimes that demand the ultimate sanction, and individuals whose right to continue living, even as a lifer in prison - I would question. The scum who raped and murdered that girl in Reading for example. Nothing to do with the death penalty as a deterrent. Simply society's way of demonstrating that certain acts will be ounished by death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popper
    I think there are crimes that demand the ultimate sanction, and individuals whose right to continue living, even as a lifer in prison - I would question. The scum who raped and murdered that girl in Reading for example. Nothing to do with the death penalty as a deterrent. Simply society's way of demonstrating that certain acts will be ounished by death.
    What crimes would you have it for, apart from the aforementioned?
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    Whatever about the death penalty, is anyone else surprised and not a little concerned about the speed with which these people have been apprehended, tried and about to be sentenced/condemned?

    The Thai prime minister went on TV very quickly after the shameful rape and murder of Katherine Horton to express concern about the impact that her killing might have on Thai tourist revenues. I do hope that they actually have got the right men for this crime and that we're not looking at an 'anyone will do' response by the Thai police.

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    What morryah said! (excluding the big crimes and miss demeanors/mass murder which is road to martyr making). There will always be people who will do thourghly sick and despicable things, such as those mentioned. But the last thing society should do is stoop to the same level in response. It doesn't act as a detterent to prevent further acts which, along with the deprivation of the perpatrator's liberty, should be the purpose. Just take a look at the American system which has the most brutal prison system in developed nations coupled with the worst crime rates.

    Also, it's a slippery slope to what exists in say many Middle Eastern states where a thief looses a hand, or a 'traitor' (someone opposing the regime or is a part of unfavourable/discrimanted groups) have their noses (etc...) cut off. We loose more than the revenge feeling we 'gain' in falling to such levels...

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    Meanwhile the six people who raped and murdered Mary-Anne Leneghan in Reading go on trial today.


    That is for the court to decide i.e. their guilt or innocence. Do you want the trial to collapse because of so-called "prejudicial comments" online or in the media?

    Remember Harney's "jail" comments that collapsed the Haughey trial?

    On the execution question, I would say no I am against the death-penalty period (except for Hitler types) on the grounds of Birmingham Six and Guildford Four i.e. miscarriages of justice.

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    Re: Death?

    Quote Originally Posted by popper
    The Thais appeared to have shown commendable speed in apprehending the murderers of Katherine Horton. It would also appear that there is a strong likelihood that they will be executed.

    Meanwhile the six people who raped and murdered Mary-Anne Leneghan in Reading go on trial today.

    Both crimes were equally horrific. Are they both equally deserving of the ultimate sanction of death?
    If a man/woman is killed by one person or by many (the state) it has the same end result.
    I don’t see why a man/woman who commits a terrible crime should be given the easy way out (death). They should stay in prison for as long as they live.
    Who knows? Maybe they might see the error of their ways!! They won't have a chance to do so if they're dead!!

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