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    276 jailed for debt default in 2008: Examiner

    Accounting for some 3% of all committals with an average sentence of 27 days. Some people were jailed more than once. I reckon the case referred to will succeed in the European Courts and will bring an end to this. How much is all this costing the taxpayer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kerrynorth View Post
    Accounting for some 3% of all committals with an average sentence of 27 days. Some people were jailed more than once. I reckon the case referred to will succeed in the European Courts and will bring an end to this. How much is all this costing the taxpayer?

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    It's not just cost. It's clearly immoral to imprison people for such trivial offences, especially in the current climate of bank bailouts.
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    They should be put into structured work communities until they've paid off their debts, prison is far too expensive.


    Seriously though we need to refine our bankruptcy laws

    1) People who recklessly borrowed(or spent) : that's the same as theft so they should be made work it off
    2) People who were responsible (e.g. got laid off) : they should be given legal protection & debts absolved after say 18 months

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    Isn't there some nuance to this? That they're not jailed for the debt per se, but for failing to obey a Court order? That said, if you were to ask me what exactly the Court had ordered, I couldn't tell you.

    But I do have a definite feeling that loosening our debt laws right now would be national suicide. If they're one thing people in our fair nation know, its when its profitable to pretend to be stupid.
    However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.


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    Garnishment of earnings is much more effective than putting people in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schuhart View Post
    Isn't there some nuance to this? That they're not jailed for the debt per se, but for failing to obey a Court order? That said, if you were to ask me what exactly the Court had ordered, I couldn't tell you.

    But I do have a definite feeling that loosening our debt laws right now would be national suicide. If they're one thing people in our fair nation know, its when its profitable to pretend to be stupid.
    Sounds like someone owes you money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by odie1kanobe View Post
    Garnishment of earnings is much more effective than putting people in jail.
    What does that entail? (And, while I accept your role in life isn't to complete my education, do you know what exactly it is that these folk go to jail for - ie what exactly do these Court Orders require them to do that they haven't done? Its just to fill out my understanding of the technicalities of the issue.)
    Quote Originally Posted by Abaddon View Post
    Sounds like someone owes you money!
    Since we collectively became the owners of Anglo-Irish Bank, we're all owed quite a lot of money by folk who would be perfectly happy if we showed them some Christian charity by letting them dry fock us between both cheeks.

    I mean, my understanding was that Irish courts tended to go easy on old Mrs Murphy who got mis-sold a mortgage. I'm not aware of any particular injustice here. But I do know (as surely we all must) that quite a sizeable proportion of the population will accept free money from anyone. They'll even accept free money from old Mrs Murphy, so long as they don't actually have to snatch her handbag to get it. If the State, on the other hand, promises to mug old Mrs Murphy for them, they'll be happy as a pig in the proverbial.
    However, banks know they have a duty of care to their clients and I'm sure that this should prevent them lending irresponsibly.


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