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    Legalise prostitution?

    PD leader Mr. Cannon has called for sex workers to be legalised...
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 82710.html

    What do you think?

    If the whole operation was driven further underground by criminalising it, there would be no access to women who had suffer rape or sexual violence or who were shipped into Ireland as sex slaves.
    This is the nub of it, by regulating the industry we will help break the sex slave industry and protect women generally.
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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    On one hand, yes it should be legal. There would be a chance to regulate the industry, try cut out human trafficking and try increase health and safety standards.

    On the other hand, if we look at Amsterdam, where it is legal and regulated, it has huge problems with drugs, trafficking continues at a huge rate, slavery pretty much exists with a lot of the women. So all the benefits that could be seen from legalising it have proved a huge failure in Amsterdam so we should not go down that road.

    In my opinion, no it should not be legalised until a better approach to solving these problems can be found.
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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    On the other hand, if we look at Amsterdam, where it is legal and regulated, it has huge problems with drugs, trafficking continues at a huge rate, slavery pretty much exists with a lot of the women. So all the benefits that could be seen from legalising it have proved a huge failure in Amsterdam so we should not go down that road.
    I think the problem here is that in order for it to work, every country in the EU needs to do it, otherwise you'll just get sinister black spots where all sorts of scum congregate and accumulate. If Ireland unilaterally legalised, we'd become a sex tourist destination and open a can of worms. Other traffickers would come here in the knowledge that they could operate freely and export to other countries where it would still be illegal.
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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Adult prostitution should be legalised and regulated with licensed brothels, which would be inspected without warning to ensure they complied with regulations aimed at stopping the spread of STDs. If consenting adults want to sell themselves for money, then good luck to them. And for the feminists out there who oppose this on those grounds, I would remind you there are also male prostitutes. Furthermore, the taxes prostitutes would pay would be good for the health-service, roads, schools etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bedstore
    There are far higher instances of sexually transmitted diseases in countries where it is legalised, and a ward to treat AIDS & HIV patients has had to be opened in Tallaght, seemingly due to the increase in prostitution here in the last few years (not a dig at the foreign working girls - their customers are obviously Irish men).
    Would controlled prostition increase or reduce this problem ?
    Surely regulation is the only way of reducing the problem, or at least beginning to tackle it? Give out licences to brothels on the condition that they comply with the strictest safety standards among others. Your point about Tallaght just highlights the need for more intervention.
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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Prostitution is legal in Germany, certain american states, Australia and (I'm sure) other places too. We have a tendency to equate legalised prostitution with Amsterdam - and with the drugs culture that also permeates there. I'm fairly sure we could introduce a regulated legalised protected and safe brothels system here if we wanted. One problem is that there will still be the problems with the illegal, backstreet, drug driven version. Legalising is probably a good thing but only in conjunction with very tight control legislation and backed up with a complete clampdown on any activity outside of the legal "industry".

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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Adult prostitution should be legalised and regulated with licensed brothels, which would be inspected without warning to ensure they complied with regulations aimed at stopping the spread of STDs. If consenting adults want to sell themselves for money, then good luck to them. And for the feminists out there who oppose this on those grounds, I would remind you there are also male prostitutes. Furthermore, the taxes prostitutes would pay would be good for the health-service, roads, schools etc.
    What about slavery and trafficking which is huge in countries where prostitution is legal?
    What about the fact that in Amsterdam, a regulated industry with all its "inspections" has huge problems with AIDS/HIV and other stds? If they Dutch who have doing this for decades cannot handle it, then how can the Irish who have not got a clue?

    Feminists do not object to selling yourself for money, they object and most of us would agree, that where you have legalised brothels, you have slavery, drugs and disease. Anyone who thinks by legalising prostitution would somehow solve any of these problems is an idiot!
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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    In Amsterdam a couple of years ago. Whatever about the merits of legalising, it's a myth to say it's a panacea. Some new problems are created and it would be very short sighted to see that.

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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Adult prostitution should be legalised and regulated with licensed brothels, which would be inspected without warning to ensure they complied with regulations aimed at stopping the spread of STDs. If consenting adults want to sell themselves for money, then good luck to them. And for the feminists out there who oppose this on those grounds, I would remind you there are also male prostitutes. Furthermore, the taxes prostitutes would pay would be good for the health-service, roads, schools etc.
    What about slavery and trafficking which is huge in countries where prostitution is legal?
    What about the fact that in Amsterdam, a regulated industry with all its "inspections" has huge problems with AIDS/HIV and other stds? If they Dutch who have doing this for decades cannot handle it, then how can the Irish who have not got a clue?

    Feminists do not object to selling yourself for money, they object and most of us would agree, that where you have legalised brothels, you have slavery, drugs and disease. Anyone who thinks by legalising prostitution would somehow solve any of these problems is an idiot!
    A lot of the HIV/AIDS problem is a by-product of the legalised-drug situation in Holland. And slavery and trafficking is far more common where adult prostitution is illegal. Like alcohol prohibition, prohibition of adult prostitution just drives it underground, forcing the prostitutes into the clutches of the violent pimps who take all the earnings. Legalised adult prostitution can give men/women a safe premises on which to practice their trade.

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    Re: Legalise prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Quote Originally Posted by PaintingMedium
    Quote Originally Posted by FutureTaoiseach
    Adult prostitution should be legalised and regulated with licensed brothels, which would be inspected without warning to ensure they complied with regulations aimed at stopping the spread of STDs. If consenting adults want to sell themselves for money, then good luck to them. And for the feminists out there who oppose this on those grounds, I would remind you there are also male prostitutes. Furthermore, the taxes prostitutes would pay would be good for the health-service, roads, schools etc.
    What about slavery and trafficking which is huge in countries where prostitution is legal?
    What about the fact that in Amsterdam, a regulated industry with all its "inspections" has huge problems with AIDS/HIV and other stds? If they Dutch who have doing this for decades cannot handle it, then how can the Irish who have not got a clue?

    Feminists do not object to selling yourself for money, they object and most of us would agree, that where you have legalised brothels, you have slavery, drugs and disease. Anyone who thinks by legalising prostitution would somehow solve any of these problems is an idiot!
    A lot of the HIV/AIDS problem is a by-product of the legalised-drug situation in Holland. And slavery and trafficking is far more common where adult prostitution is illegal. Like alcohol prohibition, prohibition of adult prostitution just drives it underground, forcing the prostitutes into the clutches of the violent pimps who take all the earnings. Legalised adult prostitution can give men/women a safe premises on which to practice their trade.
    Where does the utopian brothel exist, have you ever been to it?
    All these problems exist in legal and illegal brothels.
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