New thinking on the law

[thetruth]

Off the coast of Ireland there are loads of small isand that could be used as prisons, Blasket spring to mind right now. What about sending all the lifers to an Island off the Irish coast. They could all be given a bag of corn, 2 cows, 2 sheep and 2 chickens then be told to 'carry on'. I they want to eat. they have the means. If they want to kill each other...who cares?
Getting sent to 'the islands' would surely have a more detrimental effect than getting 'life' in the current prisons, and the population would not be shouldering the cost of having these scumbags living off us.

[odie1kanobe]

Old idea as Evening Herald had a reopen Spike Island campaign in the 1980's.

Phoenix did a send up about couple of gurriers who almost got off until Anto stared singing "Here we Go etc etc", a week later some of the gurriers did escape and try and steal a boat.

[Goldwater]

Your idea is provocative, but actually has a lot of merit.

If people don't want to be decent, productive members of our society, why should we spend a fortune feeding, clothing and housing them in prison? Let them look after themselves away from the rest of us

[thetruth]

Maybe it is an old idea but lets get real about this, Let these 'untermench' do what ever they want...But far away from the mainstream who only want to live a peaceful, honest life.
Extreme, I will admit, but why should the populace be made to pay for the crimes of others, who serve their sentences and then are free to commit more offences.
I have not researched the cost of re-offenders being granted legal aid but I will.
Also anyone who is given bail for a serious offence, (Murder, Rape, Robbery) is a joke.
Let's take offences like not paying for a TV licence off the crimes you can go to jail for and get some serious law in this country.
The Guarda do not arrest people who they belive are innocent, they know the score.
Get wise Ireland, anyone who commits random murder is 67% probable of committing the same offence again.
I say anyone who kills another human being and is found guilty without any shadow of a doubt..should be made to pay the second best option for his (or her) crime. The first option being death.

[stopthetrain]

Off the coast of Ireland there are loads of small isand that could be used as prisons, Blasket spring to mind right now. What about sending all the lifers to an Island off the Irish coast. They could all be given a bag of corn, 2 cows, 2 sheep and 2 chickens then be told to 'carry on'. I they want to eat. they have the means. If they want to kill each other...who cares?
Getting sent to 'the islands' would surely have a more detrimental effect than getting 'life' in the current prisons, and the population would not be shouldering the cost of having these scumbags living off us.

[solair]

Well we need to move away from half-modernised Victorian prisons that are located in city centres.
The likes of Mountjoy, Cork Prison, Arbour Hill etc are completely inappropriate in this day and age.
The only way forward is highly secure prisons on greenfield sites. Islands are just difficult for staff to access and don't really provide any greater degree of security.
However, if you've a prison in the middle of a large exclusion zone with appropriate fencing there's no risk of anyone getting in / out without being noticed.

[evercloserunion]

How is it a punishment though?

[mairteenpak]

four square miles of mayo 5 miles due east of bangor would be ideal.
Grow your own food
build our own house

[odie1kanobe]

four square miles of mayo 5 miles due east of bangor would be ideal.
Grow your own food
build our own house

Big Brother style but give them knives and guns and the survivor gets to build the house.

[DH]

Build the penitentiary in the middle of nowhere, where land is cheap, and the families of scumbags have to travel for hours to get to see their loved scumbag, instead of jumping on the local bus (probably with a mobile phone or budgie hidden in an orifice for onward transmission to detained scum (that flat screen TV discovered recently must have hurt)).

I am of course referring to a penitentiary for the serious offenders, not the did not pay TV licence person. The less serious offenders should be supervised on heritage projects, and cleaning the ungodly amount of SH*t on the side of our roads and beaches and streets.