Donor denied access rights to biological child

[TheBear]

By the way. What is the opposite of biological child. Is it non-biological?

Strange terminology.

I wondered about the title too.

[DS-147]

By the way. What is the opposite of biological child. Is it non-biological?

Strange terminology.

I wondered about the title too.

Apoligies if the title has confused.
I assume the opposite to a biological child is an adopted child?

[Cookie68]

By the way. What is the opposite of biological child. Is it non-biological?

Only when he's Bold

[Cookie68]

It looks like the legislature will be responding to yesterday's ruling.

Co-habitation bill to be published soon, says Cowen

http://breakingnews.ie/ireland/?jp=mhoj ... &c=ireland

[MarkD]

I'm glad I'm not adopted or orphaned, because the bull$hit come out with by some people when cases like these are discussed, where you aren't a proper morally upright well reared child unless you were vaginally inseminated, vaginally delivered, breastfed, and raised solely by your biological parents, is just unreal.

Of course, they always try and craft it in a "well, we don't REALLY mean the broader case, just this specific one" but in reality IVF, adoption and step-parenting give them the heebiejeebies.

[Limerick Lad]

I'm glad I'm not adopted or orphaned, because the bull$hit come out with by some people when cases like these are discussed, where you aren't a proper morally upright well reared child unless you were vaginally inseminated, vaginally delivered, breastfed, and raised solely by your biological parents, is just unreal.

Of course, they always try and craft it in a "well, we don't REALLY mean the broader case, just this specific one" but in reality IVF, adoption and step-parenting give them the heebiejeebies.

As an adopted person I have to agree with you, when these topics are discussed the parenting skills and the ability to care for children by non-biological parents is called in to question and it is suggested that only a man and a women who are the biological parents can raise and nurture children properly.

[Cookie68]

As an adopted person I have to agree with you, when these topics are discussed the parenting skills and the ability to care for children by non-biological parents is called in to question and it is suggested that only a man and a women who are the biological parent can raise and nurture children properly.

Limerick Lad,

I'm not sure how you read that into anything said on this thread. (Any particular posts?)

I don't think this thread is about adoption per se - it's about two women who have set out to raise a boy together (via artificial insemination) without the involvement of the father.

The father seems to want more involvement (now that he has seen his son) but it's too late - he is excluded.

Ever see the film Alfie (Michael Caine, 1966) ? If you have you'll know what I mean. Don't underestimate the human instincts in us.

The only plus in this case is that the father is known. If it had been an anonymous donor the boy would probably spend half his life looking at people and wondering if they were related to him. If there was a genetic disease (physical or mental) that he needed to be aware of he would just never know until, possibly, it was too late.

In this case the father may be able to contact him at some point if a genetic weakness is discovered in his bloodline. The child and the father may then bond and lament the years lost to estrangement. But of course that may be prohibited under the sperm donation contract.

[Limerick Lad]

I'm glad I'm not adopted or orphaned, because the bull$hit come out with by some people when cases like these are discussed, where you aren't a proper morally upright well reared child unless you were vaginally inseminated, vaginally delivered, breastfed, and raised solely by your biological parents, is just unreal.

Of course, they always try and craft it in a "well, we don't REALLY mean the broader case, just this specific one" but in reality IVF, adoption and step-parenting give them the heebiejeebies.

As an adopted person I have to agree with you, when these topics are discussed the parenting skills and the ability to care for children by non-biological parents is called in to question and it is suggested that only a man and a women who are the biological parents can raise and nurture children properly.

Limerick Lad,

I'm not sure how you read that into anything said on this thread. (Any particular posts?)

I don't think this thread is about adoption per se - it's about two women who have set out to raise a boy together (via artificial insemination) without the involvement of the father.

The father seems to want more involvement (now that he has seen his son) but it's too late - he is excluded.

Ever see the film Alfie (Michael Caine, 1966) - if you have you'll know what I mean.

Cookie

My comment was based on the general tenor of this and other related threads, where the general emphasis is on the supremacy of the male/female relationship with their own biological children above all other family units.
I do know that this thread is about the parental right of the sperm donating father having followed and posted on it since it's inception but adoption is a related topic, to ensure parental rights for the natural mother's partner and avoid complications in the future, she would need to be allowed to adopt the child.

[Cookie68]

My comment was based on the general tenor of this and other related threads, where the general emphasis is on the supremacy of the male/female relationship with their own biological children above all other family units.
I do know that this thread is about the parental right of the sperm donating father having followed and posted on it since it's inception but adoption is a related topic, to ensure parental rights for the natural mother's partner and avoid complications in the future, she would need to be allowed to adopt the child.

Unlike normal adoption these women deliberately set out to create this situation.

It will get very messy and even more sad in time.