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    How to crack the cocaine problem

    Just heard Pat Carey, on Newstalk talking about his new 2million euro plan to educate us more about cocaine. I was thinking would mandatory custodial sentences for anyone found in possession of cocaine, not be a bad idea? It would certainly act as a major deterrent for anyone considering to take cocaine...
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    Unfortunately so many people are now taking it that they fear that their kids could do time for what they themselves perceive to be ok drugs. In principle, custodial sentences would be good. Personally I think horsewhipping would be cheaper and more effective.

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    There's a pun in the title of this thread right?

    Seriously though, mandatory prison sentences for possession & use and natural life (preferably execution) for dealers.
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    Haha Yeah.

    From a pragmatic point of view, we really couldn't possibly manage to imprison each and every person found in possession of cocaine, could we? Surely a Judge having discretion is better, as this enusures that those who deserve custodial sentences get prison and those who don't, don't get prison?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermanpolitician
    Unfortunately so many people are now taking it that they fear that their kids could do time for what they themselves perceive to be ok drugs. In principle, custodial sentences would be good. Personally I think horsewhipping would be cheaper and more effective.

    We do underestimate the value of public humiliation as a deterrent. I take it the floggings would be before the start of say a local sporting event?

    Drug dealers deal in death and should be treated as murderers. What they sell kills people slowly and destroys communities. If you are not winning on crime the punishment needs to balance the likelihood of not being caught.

    You also need an effective education programme and resources allocated to treating addicts. It is a problem that requires resources but money well spent.

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    Would a mandatory prison term actually deter people?
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    Legalise it, let the pharmacuetical companies make it, tax it

    What is it only souped up Pharmaton

    Jesus.. we have hundreds of thousands of families being destroyed directly and indirectly by alcohol every year.. and people are worried about a cocaine problem

    Mandatory sentences ? Ha.. How many prisons do you lot want to build ?

    Where are the great liberals in FG and the PD's. If people want to kill themselves.. let them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squire Allworthy
    Drug dealers deal in death and should be treated as murderers. What they sell kills people slowly and destroys communities. If you are not winning on crime the punishment needs to balance the likelihood of not being caught.
    We're not winning on drug-related crime. This is well-known. Talk to police in private, and they'll tell you. But law-enforcement personnel and politicians are generally afraid to state this in public.

    Consider who controls what comes out of Colombia, and who controls what comes out of Afghanistan. In both cases it is the CIA. Or, to be more precise, the CIA, its associates, British Government agencies, and collaborating gangsters. And it's a problem.

    Jailing and whipping a few miscreants in Ireland or anywhere else is not going to change that problem. What will change it is governments legalizing those drugs. Yes, legalization. It's a simple, well-known idea. We do it for all sorts of dangerous substances -- alcohol, tobacco, prescription drugs, and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianForde
    Would a mandatory prison term actually deter people?
    Spending the first month of a prison term displayed in a glass cage outside the local police station might deter people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockofcashel
    If people want to kill themselves.. let them
    You don't have children RoC, do you?
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