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    Dame_Enda Dame_Enda is offline
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    The absurd practice of granting bail to those with large numbers of prior convictions needs to stop. The absurd practice of bailing persons who have just been convicted also needs to end. Hundreds of thousands of crimes were committed on bail over a decade. The concept of a sacred right to bail should have died with the passage of the Bail referendum in the 1990s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    We can't trust the crime statistics given AGS recently admitted some of it was not accurate and when they were looked over again crime increased in categories like burglary which for years FG had said was falling.

    Cllr Barry Evans was on The Tonight Show on TV3 recently and when a panelist said that juries are not being told when a suspect has hundreds of prior convictions, he replied that it didn't mean he would do it again.

    I think there's a strong case for informing the jury of prior convictions especially when there are large numbers of them.
    There is no such case. The jury is charged only with dealing with the matter in hand.
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    The reason for the state being relatively peaceful is the people themselves.

    The Gardai are a failure, there are a few good apples, but the majority of them are thicks at best and criminals more likely.

    Biggest criminal gang in the state. I wouldn't like to be Martin Callinan when Sgt McCabe issues him with legal proceedings, I'd say Disgustin Pig Callinan will have to give up a sizable amount of his lucrative pension although this being Ireland I am sure the state will ride in to save its useful idiot in case he really spills the beans about the relationship between the state, AGS and dirty journalists like the two Pauls and that ****************************** O'Tool from the laughable star.
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    And wait until the likes of these fellas kick off, nothing is ever learned -

    " GARDAÍ ARE MONITORING the activities of an Irish chapter of the Bandidos motorcycle club, which formed last weekend in Limerick. An initiation ceremony of a ‘full patch chapter’ took place at the Crossagalla Industrial Estate. According to gardaí, the leaders of several Bandido chapters from across Europe attended the initiation ceremony last Saturday. "

    'Some serious criminal elements showed up': Feared motorcycle gang forms in Ireland
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    how often do the newspapers report that Mr Accused, who was in court this morning, has 200 previous convictions ?

    ROI is a Failed State.
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    WT Cosgrave is rolling in his grave.
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    It seems that, similar to the crisis in health care, that a lot of our problems in law and order are caused by those with authority not being prepared to deal with root causes and prefer to deal with symptoms.

    Prof Donal O


    The US "3 strikes" rule is too draconian, but when you see lads coming into court with 100s of previous convictions, unless you're a solicitor or a Guard addicted to overtime, you have to wonder WTF is going on!

    Progressive sentencing, mandatory GPS tracking, maybe more active parole officer type engagement and a better "back to work" scheme would be really beneficial.
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    The country is in an existential crisis. We don’t know where we’re going as a country. I even wonder if the concept of a country has been dispensed with long ago? Leo seems to be pledging military allegiance to Macron’s vision for a future Europe, yet I’ve heard no debate about this. Rampant individualism is the logical default of all this, which of itself causes crime but more importantly the sense of service and possible self-sacrifice that are needed in those charged with protecting us, is negated by it.

    Of course our enthralment and enslavement to property which is symptom of our individualistic national character is a big impediment to any concept of service to anything other than self. Why on earth would, or more importantly should a garda put him/herself on the line if one couldn’t see oneself owning a decent home?

    Of course we’ll hear about longer sentences, internet porn and the usual bandaid solutions but there’ll be no inclination to tackle the root causes.

    It will be gated communities for the rich and a rough dog eat dog society for the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reg11 View Post
    The country is in an existential crisis. We don’t know where we’re going as a country. I even wonder if the concept of a country has been dispensed with long ago? Leo seems to be pledging military allegiance to Macron’s vision for a future Europe, yet I’ve heard no debate about this. Rampant individualism is the logical default of all this, which of itself causes crime but more importantly the sense of service and possible self-sacrifice that are needed in those charged with protecting us, is negated by it.
    Agreed, the smarmy slimebag is of course a Redmondite just like those before him, Kenny, Ahern, Bruton, Fitzgerald, Haughey, Lynch, Lemass etc. Here is that 'thing' Varadkar as usual with his self promotion trying to look manly inspecting the soldiers in the Leb. What an assho1e



    Of course our enthralment and enslavement to property which is symptom of our individualistic national character is a big impediment to any concept of service to anything other than self. Why on earth would, or more importantly should a garda put him/herself on the line if one couldn’t see oneself owning a decent home?

    Of course we’ll hear about longer sentences, internet porn and the usual bandaid solutions but there’ll be no inclination to tackle the root causes.

    It will be gated communities for the rich and a rough dog eat dog society for the rest.
    Our national character has been subverted since so called 'independence' of partition in 1922. This was and should be the values of our nation, not the greed is good philosophy of the gombeen class that preside over this farce -

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