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    An Garda Siochana "requirement"

    Personable / friendly
    Ability to liaise with all elements
    Fit
    Strong
    Honest
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    The criminal elements have no fear of An Garda Siochana any more.

    Waving their iphones in their faces, claiming "assault" and noting their badge numbers.

    It didn`t happen in the old days.

    Criminals were in fear of An Gardai.

    They should never have reduced the height requirement and physical build requirement.

    I note that someone mentioned the fitness regime or test. If you work in An Garda Siochana surely you have some personal responsibility to stay fit & healthy cut back on the booze etc if needed.
    In all walks of life we have a responsibility to stay fit and healthy, not everyone does. For the guards, it should be mandatory. It amazes me that it is not.
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    We need to bring in minimum sentencing for a lot more offences.

    I'd also be in favour of a "10 for 10" policy.
    Commit 10 crimes and get a minimum of 10 years for your 10th offence.

    Dublin City Centre is an embarrassment.
    You can feel the crime oozing through the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_anderson View Post
    We need to bring in minimum sentencing for a lot more offences.

    I'd also be in favour of a "10 for 10" policy.
    Commit 10 crimes and get a minimum of 10 years for your 10th offence.

    Dublin City Centre is an embarrassment.
    You can feel the crime oozing through the streets.
    Walked down a street in Dublin City Centre yesterday.

    Within 100 yards 4 people "begging"

    Every one looked like they had an addiction
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    The problem starts with the drunks.
    Valuable resources are wasted on them.

    They should be criminalized by the courts. The probation act and the poor box is not a deterrent.

    They drunks might behave if they run the risk of getting a criminal record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Flannels is not up to the job that's for sure....


    The trouble is the judicial system

    - the Gardaí are by Global standards not that bad a Force

    I think shambolic mismanagement is their Achilles Heel rather than Corruption
    How often do we read of scrotes with almost 100 convictions for general scrot-ery. Concurrent sentences are the problem as they feed the legal professions fees.

    Just incarcerate for longer. We have a long way to go before anything like a three strikes rule . Just keep skangers out of harms way. And reform bail for recidivest violent criminals.

    And no dole for under 25s unless they are being trained into employability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hammer View Post
    The criminal elements have no fear of An Garda Siochana any more.

    Waving their iphones in their faces, claiming "assault" and noting their badge numbers.

    It didn`t happen in the old days.

    Criminals were in fear of An Gardai.

    They should never have reduced the height requirement and physical build requirement.

    I note that someone mentioned the fitness regime or test. If you work in An Garda Siochana surely you have some personal responsibility to stay fit & healthy cut back on the booze etc if needed.
    The fear of the Garcia came in part from low level brutality. And no recourse if you were working class. So that was not very good as a panacea. Scrotes need to fear the courts. Working class people should not be made fearful of the gardai.

    We do need some draconian action against the Kinehan-types. That is one area where harsh internment camps would be good. If you have previous convictions for gang offences, and are suspected of similar, then use it.

    There is no equivalence to that and how it was used against the IRA.
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    We can't trust the crime statistics given AGS recently admitted some of it was not accurate and when they were looked over again crime increased in categories like burglary which for years FG had said was falling.

    Cllr Barry Evans was on The Tonight Show on TV3 recently and when a panelist said that juries are not being told when a suspect has hundreds of prior convictions, he replied that it didn't mean he would do it again.

    I think there's a strong case for informing the jury of prior convictions especially when there are large numbers of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dame_Enda View Post
    We can't trust the crime statistics given AGS recently admitted some of it was not accurate and when they were looked over again crime increased in categories like burglary which for years FG had said was falling.

    Cllr Barry Evans was on The Tonight Show on TV3 recently and when a panelist said that juries are not being told when a suspect has hundreds of prior convictions, he replied that it didn't mean he would do it again.

    I think there's a strong case for informing the jury of prior convictions especially when there are large numbers of them.
    A jury should solely be presented with the evidence that comes before them. If the defendant is found guilty then he/she should get a longer sentence If they have a number of previous convictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disillusioned democrat View Post
    There are many active threads accurately detailing this government's abject performance in health and housing, and a few long lasting ones around specific issues in relation to "justice" - most specifically around high profile corruption in the higher ranks of AGS and the despicable treatment of honest Gardaí who tried to uncover some of the dodgy backscratching that went/goes on.

    There's less talk about law and order though, which now seems to be very much in decline and not getting the attention it deserves from the Minister for Justice who seems to be happier jumping on the populist "compensation for the laundry survivors", "blasphemy referendum" and "representation rights for alleged rape victims" bandwagons than actually dealing with the declining state of law and order in Ireland.

    In the past few weeks there has been some very serious crimes committed in Ireland - crimes that 5 years ago would be the main item on the news and discussed for weeks afterwards, but are now becoming almost common place:

    • The gang rape in Kildare last night
    • The machete attack in Ballincollig last weekend
    • The murder of Jastine Valdez a few weeks ago
    • The rape and murder of Ana Kriegel a few days before that
    • The murder of Cameron Reilly in Dunleer
    • The murder of Vincent Kelly in Bray last weekend
    • The car jacking at knife point in Phoenix Park two days ago
    • The on-going Kinahan-Hutch feud


    On top of that there's still a huge level of violent rural crime on an on-going basis and the level of drugs in the country is returning to Tiger economy levels.

    This all comes at a time when crime statistics carry a government health warning.

    Is FG's lack in interest in "little people" issues taking the finger off the "Pulse" so to speak?

    Is Charlie Flanagan the most ineffective MoJ in the history of the state or is the country just spontaneously becoming a seriously dangerous place to live?
    How did you find out about these? Via the media?
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