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    Meanwhile i guess she'd have no problems extraditing to Spain ...where they beat people trying to vote off the street and imprison democratically elected politicians without bail .....Nothing outside European norms that the EU need concern itself with there apparently
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman1 View Post
    A lot of extradition cases are. If there is no basis in law for the judgement, the ECJ will overturn it and order the extradition.
    How long does the ECJ take to rule?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    Very glib dismissal there ger - if someone did that on the abortion threads you'd have a paroxysm of conniptions.
    Ah come on. Don't muddy the waters.

    I think what's going in Poland is not good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadlock View Post
    Some further background from last nights BBC2 Newsnight that puts much of what the OP deals with in a broader Polish societal context. Well worth the quarter of an hour or so to watch.

    It all sounds familiar. They're using the resentments of the rural, conservative underclasses to drive through policies that will ultimately harm everyone, including those underclasses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    How long does the ECJ take to rule?

    As long as it takes. You just want the furriner sent home ASAP, I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    This is politics.

    Not law.

    When was this judge appointed?
    It's not political to point out how the independence of the judiciary is being undermined. Would you like to see Irish politicians engage in such a power grab?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brughahaha View Post
    Meanwhile i guess she'd have no problems extraditing to Spain ...where they beat people trying to vote off the street and imprison democratically elected politicians without bail .....Nothing outside European norms that the EU need concern itself with there apparently
    Why not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    It all sounds familiar. They're using the resentments of the rural, conservative underclasses to drive through policies that will ultimately harm everyone, including those underclasses.
    I was in Silesia the other day. Almost the entire region is píss poor and appallingly polluted. The amount of publicly expressed right-wing/ultra-nationalist/ultra-catholic sentiment there was shocking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    It's not political to point out how the independence of the judiciary is being undermined. Would you like to see Irish politicians engage in such a power grab?
    Yes it's a power grab.

    We has one or two attempts here in recent years.

    Poland like Ireland is a democracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prester Jim View Post
    Strange, off the top of my head it might be a way to remove the older judges put in by previous govt?
    Yep. They seem to be coming up with any old rule to remove the more "troublesome" members of the judiciary and I suppose women might be more liberal. Next step would be to actually name the judges they want removed but that would too obvious, even for the PiS.
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