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    Dame_Enda Dame_Enda is offline
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    If the charges predate the reform of the judiciary then it's hard to argue they are politically motivated by Poland.

    I would argue that the French Justice system is highly politicised because one third of the Constitutional Council is appointed by the president, and prosecutors often go after politicians close to elections yet we don't hear those arguments for them. And we've seen the politicisation of Spanish courts regarding Catalunya.

    Thirdly Ireland is not fully signed up to the JHA Chapter of the EU Treaty but has an ad hoc opt-in from it, which also leads me to question our jurisdiction on the Polish Justice system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    ... a High Court judge has stated that "the common value of the rule "respect for the rule of law is essential for mutual trust in the operation of the European arrest warrant" process.

    RTÉ News: High Court judge wants ruling over 'immense' law changes in Poland
    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    This is politics.

    Not law.

    When was this judge appointed?
    Very glib dismissal there ger - if someone did that on the abortion threads you'd have a paroxysm of conniptions.
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    This is basically because Poland still values it's Christian patrimony and for the powers that be at Brussels that simply cannot do.
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    so was it the Poles stood up to the EU immigration steamroller ? and so it declared them illegal ? or have i missed something ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by statsman1 View Post
    A lot of extradition cases are. If there is no basis in law for the judgement, the ECJ will overturn it and order the extradition.
    The ECJ is an activist court and will do whatever gives the EU and the ECJ more power

    And i'll lay €100 this judge will get some well paid tax free cushty eu number as a Thank You at some date in the future .....
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    ShoutingIsLeadership ShoutingIsLeadership is offline
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger12 View Post
    This is politics.

    Not law.

    When was this judge appointed?
    No, it's most definitely law. One thing we are blessed with in this country is a fair judiciary (at senior levels), by and large
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    ShoutingIsLeadership ShoutingIsLeadership is offline
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    Nothing like a good conspiracy theory of a morning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wascurito View Post
    Some of the recent changes in Poland are mind-boggling.....!

    "a new regime which reduce[s] the retirement age for female judges from 67 to 60 and for male judges from 67 to 65"
    Strange, off the top of my head it might be a way to remove the older judges put in by previous govt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spirit Of Newgrange View Post
    so was it the Poles stood up to the EU immigration steamroller ? and so it declared them illegal ? or have i missed something ?
    You've missed most things since the Enlightenment, to be fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShoutingIsLeadership View Post
    No, it's most definitely law. One thing we are blessed with in this country is a fair judiciary (at senior levels), by and large
    Your joking right ? Ther Law library is like the Dail without the elections
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