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    They know Catherine Corless won't say too much, she's safe...



    I don't believe Catherine is "timid" (as per hubby Mr Corless' remarks)



    1 February 2018
    Liveline Friday 13 April 2018 - Liveline - RTÉ Radio 1


    Discussion and debate with Joe Duffy:



    *Non-survivor Catherine Corless was more than happy to take up a segment on Joe Duffy Show throwing mud at a survivor called Owen Felix O'Neill*.



    *Amateur historian Catherine Corless was claiming to be upset at what she perceived as an inference she had involvement in a website called tuambabies.org, which is run by survivor Owen Felix O'Neill



    *A very indignant Catherine had a muddled story about survivor Owen. I checked Catherine's story out and it just didn't hold up (see below)



    *And, fortunately, Joe Duffy backed away toward the end. Why this personality clash between Catherine and Owen escalated to the waves, perhaps, we will never know…. I don't want to hear small town gossip.



    *Initially, it did sound as though it was a genuine complaint from Catherine Corless against Survivor Owen Felix O'Neill, who has led a TORTURED existence ..



    This is what went down on the show ~~~



    Non Survivor Catherine Corless told Joe Duffy:


    (1) This man (Owen Felix O'Neill) has a website called tuambabies.org

    (2) This man was asking for donations that would be linked to her, as he (Owen)

    (3) (as he Owen) had a photo of her that she had agreed to have taken with him on the grounds of Tuam

    (4) Catherine would prefer that he did not call his website tuambabies.org



    Owen Felix O'Neill told Joe Duffy:


    (1) Owen confirmed that he does have a website called tuambabies.org


    STARRY: TRUE. BUT … Owen can call his website tuamhome.org or tuamhomebabies.org if he chooses to do so.


    (2) Owen said that he is not asking for donations on his site…


    STARRY: TRUE. Owen has a page on his website that says 'Donation' (singular) where he wants to donate his private collection of rare books...


    https://www.tuambabies.org/donation.html


    tuambabies.org "TuamBabies Organisation", is a Registered Company at CRO Companies Registration Office, Ireland. Number 12496625

    Owen also has this webpage ~


    https://www.tuambabies.org/donate-tuam-babies.html


    To show my resolve I am going to Donate my entire House, my Private Collection of Rare Books, Documents, Pamphlets, Art and Jewellery. Owen Felix O'Neill

    It will take time but my Donation is needed to fund the Resource Centre, for all the Women, and Children, that lived and Worked in all the Religious Run Institutions in Ireland.

    (3) Owen clarified that - in the past - he had a photo of Catherine Corless and himself (together) in his Gallery of photos, but he had taken it down on her request. It's no longer there after Corless complained to him (via messaging him on his website).


    STARRY: TRUE. BUT …. Owen removed the photo after Catherine asked him to take it down (she had messaged him via his website). Catherine had allowed Owen to take the photo of them together at Tuam.







    (4) Owen explained that he is using the name 'Tuam Babies" as a collective description of all babies.


    STARRY: Owen got extremely emotional whilst speaking on this subject, which is VERY CLOSE TO HIS HEART. I feel that Owen can call his website whatever he wants - he doesn't have to ask Corless' permission.


    https://www.tuambabies.org/tuam-babies-about.html


    We are using the name “Tuam Babies” as a collective description of all babies, children and women who were incarcerated in institutions run by the Irish Catholic Church.


    STARRY: The only thing that I would like clarified as an objective listener is: What is the Resource Centre? You would need to see receipts ("It will take time but my donation is needed to fund the Resource Centre").


    All the rest is a public dissing (Live) of Owen on the show merely because Catherine doesn't trust him.


    Joe Duffy backed completely away from all of this., and instead asked Owen about the letters to a priest from Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, which Owen had managed to locate in Ireland.



    This radio show was not a court of law. And it wasn't dignified behaviour against a survivor … I felt uncomfortable listening to this, as it sounded like a hatchet job on survivor Owen. Survivor Owen Felix O'Neill is intelligent, outspoken and articulate.



    Once again, Catherine used this opportunity to praise Zappone. I listened to the podcast some time ago, and found it really cringeworthy. We can do better.




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    Now, more than ever, we must be vigilant
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
    Catherine Corless has tonight received a People of the Year Award

    Congrats Catherine

    Catherine Corless called for a full exhumation of the remains of hundreds of babies on the site of the former Tuam mother and baby home.

    As a result of her research into the home, run by the Sisters of Bon Secours, the remains of hundreds of babies were discovered. Catherine was recognised for her passionate advocacy on behalf of survivors and their families and for her persistence and dedication, without which the scandal would never have been exposed and the truth revealed.




    Catherine Corless, Rescue 116 crew and Vera Twomey among People of the Year

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0415/95...e-of-the-year/
    As a result of her research into the home, run by the Sisters of Bon Secours, the remains of hundreds of babies were discovered

    This is simply untrue
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarryPlough01 View Post
    https://www.rte.ie/player/au/show/pe...3729/10864691/



    Catherine Corless was talking about the babies needing a Christian burial.



    Quite contrary to the MC's remarks the healing hasn't happened in Ireland ... yet. It's about healing for all the survivors at the mother and baby homes... And quite contrary to IHREC Chief Commissoner's remarks there is no dignity, as yet, for the children.



    *THIS IS HOLLYWOOD*
    Corless is no longer a Catholic according to her

    - so why is it any concern to her so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catalpast View Post
    Corless is no longer a Catholic according to her

    - so why is it any concern to her so?
    If you have to ask that question then it shows your lack of humanity or concern towards children who were discarded in life and death and whose disposal in a structure designed for human waste speaks volumes and has caused local, national and international outrage.

    Boundaries will be pushed only as far as society condones it
    K S Satyapa
    Department of Clinical Anatomy, University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban
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    The treatment of human remains | Satyapal | South African Journal of Bioethics and Law

    Human rights, human remains: forensic humanitarianism and the human rights of the dead - Author Claire Moon
    Forensic humanitarianism is distinguished by two imperatives that are characteristic of humanitarianism more broadly: adjudicative and ameliorative. These imperatives manifest in the ways in which forensic humanitarianism plays a critical role in justice for atrocity and addresses human suffering. Second, the article historicises the emergence of forensic humanitarianism, showing that it has been shaped by the conjunction of four particular and related histories: humanitarian, legal, political and scientific. Third, and finally, the article asks whether, as a consequence of the practice of forensic humanitarianism, we can argue that the dead, now, can be understood to have human rights
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/issj.12071

    For Archaeologists - on the Treatment of Human Remains
    http://www.iai.ie/wp-content/uploads...an-Remains.pdf
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    National People of the Year Award 2017 goes to Vera Twomey...




    A Mother's Love for her Daughter Ava



    'A Mother's Love Knows No Bounds'



    'Cork Rebel' Vera Twomey said her family had been 'Existing without Hope, Hope is Very Important'



    The Government was ignoring them, so Vera Twomey made the decision to do a 260 km protest walk from Cork to Dublin



    Vera said: 'They were let down by the Government, but they were never let down by the Irish people who supported her family for the last two years.'



    Vera spoke from her heart and touched the audience. The audience in a huge tidal wave of support helped carry Vera in her message to Taoiseach Leo Varadkar. Vera wanted to help other sufferers get the same medicinal treatment as her daughter Ava now receives. After a two and a half year national campaign, Vera's daughter was issued with a licence for medicinal cannabis to treat her severe form of epilepsy (Dravet syndrome).



    Vera speaking directly to Taoiseach LEO VARADKAR in the audience asked that the Government legislate and put a framework in place for prescribing of medicinal cannabis in Ireland so other families do not have to go through hell, as theirs did.



    She wants the government and opposition to work together to give the gift that Ava has received, and this gift is Ava's freedom to live her life free from seizures and free from pain. To live and grow and be happy with a brighter future because everyone deserves that right now and into the future. Not just 7 people who have been granted licences in Ireland to date, but the thousands of other people who are watching here tonight hoping and praying legislation will be brought through to ease their suffering and pain. She passionately asked Taoiseach Varadkar to move Kenny's Bill forward and support legislation for the people of Ireland into the future. He was the man to do it. The audience spontaneously stands and cheered Vera on. Vera said they want Varadkar to do it now.



    O My God, the fine hairs on my arms stood up to salute Vera. She was authentic, not driven by ego, a fearless fighter for change



    I suspect that Vera would have crawled to Dublin if she had to.



    Vera Twomey

    https://www.rte.ie/player/gb/show/pe...3729/10864701/




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    Using a wheelchair, Vera Twomey nears the end of her trek to Dublin for her daughter

    Mother on protest walk from Cork to Dublin for second time to get her child medicinal cannabis
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ka_ODonne...88463962861568


    Katherine O'Donnell
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    We need more than a plaque to mark Ireland’s history of cruelty- visit (link: http://industrialmemories.ucd.ie/) industrialmemories.ucd.ie @UCDResearh #LoveIrishResearch






    Site of the former Magdalen Laundry on Sean McDermott Street, Dublin. Photograph: Dara Mac Dónaill

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/h...elty-1.3452991



    https://mobile.twitter.com/Ka_ODonnell


    Katherine O'Donnell


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    School of Philosophy, University College Dublin, *Feminist & Gender Theory* *Aesthetics* 18thC. Studies* Justice for Magdalenes Research (JFMR) University College Dublin
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    #WeDon'tNeedNoStinkingPlaques
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    https://www.eventbrite.ie/e/swip-ire...ts-44976807843


    Society for Women in Philosophy, Ireland

    In association with (in Parenthesis) University of Durham and University of Liverpool

    6th Annual Conference and General Meeting of SWIP-Ireland


    17-19 May, 2018


    University College Dublin, Ireland


    Sutherland School of Law


    Women in Philosophy: Past, Present and Future


    Marking the 101 years of a publication in Mind by the Irish philosopher, suffragist and prominent librarian, Agnes Cuming (1890-1962)



    Programme follows ... (see link)



    Location

    UCD Sutherland School of Law
    Belfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereWeGoAgain View Post
    If you have to ask that question then it shows your lack of humanity or concern towards children who were discarded in life and death and whose disposal in a structure designed for human waste speaks volumes and has caused local, national and international outrage.


    K S Satyapa
    Department of Clinical Anatomy, University of KwaZulu-Natal, Durban
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    The treatment of human remains | Satyapal | South African Journal of Bioethics and Law

    Human rights, human remains: forensic humanitarianism and the human rights of the dead - Author Claire Moon


    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...111/issj.12071

    For Archaeologists - on the Treatment of Human Remains
    http://www.iai.ie/wp-content/uploads...an-Remains.pdf
    There are estimated to be 10,000 bodies beneath or around where the Tuam Workhouse was

    - where is the concern for them?

    Or is this just another example of a hierarchy of victimhood?

    We just know what is down there until the site is fully excavated

    Sadly it looks like this will not now happen

    - best leave it that the Myth of the Nuns dropping kids in a septic tank flows on and on and on......
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesGall...96261080129537


    Amazing investigative journalism from @ococonuts St Finbarr’s infant burials may not be investigated

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...ed-469510.html




    https://mobile.twitter.com/ococonuts...96819128078336


    Conall Ó Fátharta
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    Commission can only investigate deaths linked to a Mother and Baby Home. The problem with these TORs was raised repeatedly when it was set up. So now only some of these deaths can be examined despite all being part of the same system, same cohort of women








    St Finbarr Cemetery's infant burials may not be investigated~


    https://www.irishexaminer.com/irelan...ed-469510.html


    By Conall Ó Fátharta



    An Irish Examiner investigation, published last month, revealed that three grave plots in St Finbarr’s cemetery, in Cork City, contain the remains of at least 21 children — some of whom were buried as late as 1990.


    Two of the graves are unmarked, while the third has just one name, despite 16 children being buried in the plot.


    One of the unmarked plots is owned by the now closed St Anne’s Adoption Society, [OUTSIDE REMIT OF COMMISSION] while the largest plot was owned by the St Patrick’s Orphanage, run by the Mercy Sisters. It operated a nursery for St Anne’s Adoption Society. The final plot is a non-perpetuity plot, indicating that it is unowned.



    All three plots contain children who were in the care of the Bessborough Mother and Baby Home [CORK] — one of the institutions under the remit of the Mother and Baby Homes Commission.


    However, they represent the same cohort of infant deaths being examined — namely, the children of unmarried women who were to be adopted [*SEE ABOVE TWEET BY JOURNO CONALL Ó FATHARTA*] .





    The DAIL should IMMEDIATELY intercede to widen the scope of the Inquiry to include _ALL_ the Mother and Baby Homes, County Homes… in order to have a balanced Inquiry .




    ____________


    The Irish Examiner is leading the way in *amazing* investigative journalism.
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    Breaking news...



    TAOISEACH LEO VARADKAR HAS BEEN TREATED FOR SEVERE CRITICISM IN A DUBLIN HOSPITAL



    An investigation has been launched into how the Taoiseach ... came to be exposed to criticism while attending the People of the Year Awards, which left him fighting for his smug sense of self-satisfaction in hospital.

    [He is now] … believed to be in a stable but severely roasted condition.

    "We f*cked up, we should have just kept him at home taking selfies…" … explained all 1,459 members of [Leo's] extensive PR team.

    The pristine social media sheen of [his] image was left severely damaged by the exchange with a normal member of the public ... [he will] never again make the mistake of attending another public event that isn’t stage-managed to within an inch of its life.

    https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/20...blin-hospital/



    ___________________





    *ON A SERIOUS NOTE FOR MOTHER AND BABY HOMES*...



    What a wasted opportunity for Tuam and ALL Mother and Baby Homes by Catherine Corless.



    Leo Varadkar was seated a mere few feet away from Corless ~~~ in direct eye contact with her… [/B]



    ***DON'T ROCK THE BOAT CATHERINE CORLESS*** COULD HAVE GOT THE MESSAGE OVER IN A POSITIVE WAY~~



    -----> FOR EXAMPLE, CORLESS COULD HAVE SAID:



    "We are learning that up to date genomic techniques make it possible to identify a significant number of the human remains...."



    STARRY: In this way it would be part of the public conversation.



    It's telling that NO representation was made in any form about the 'EXPERT" GROUP (in Genonics) --- set up by Politician Zappone --- and their "PESSIMISM "on DNA-test finding at Tuam...


    These "expert" Group findings are being challenged by eminent University College Dublin-Trinity College scientists, who say Zappone's "experts" are looking through a prism of technology that is 20 years old...


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/soci...fied-1.3460016




    WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? IT TOTALLY STINKS... AN OPPORTUNITY LOST..





    .........

    'Opportunity Lost' An investigation by the Ombudsman into the administration of the Magdalen Restorative Justice Scheme (Under Section 4 of the Ombudsman Act 1980, as amended); November 2017

    http://www.ombudsman.ie/en/Publicati...unity-Lost.pdf
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