New asylum scam exposed

[FutureTaoiseach]

Illustrates what those of us who argued the system is being abused by overwhelmingly bogus asylum-seekers are correct.

Asylum seekers arrive with packs on how to beat the system

Many bogus asylum applicants are arriving here armed with an information pack on how to beat the system.


An investigation into asylum seeker abuses has also uncovered elaborate scams being used by the illegals to evade detection by immigration authorities.

The investigation, codenamed Operation Gull, is a joint exercise involving the gardai, the Department of Social and Family Affairs, the UK Borders and Immigration Agency and the Police Service of Northern Ireland.

An estimated 12pc of illegal migrants exposed by Operation Gull had been travelling on false documents. Officials said last night that bogus papers were also being used by criminals to move between countries.

A recent case involved an Algerian who had been deported from the UK after a conviction and prison sentence for rape.

With the help of his brother, he obtained a false French passport and flew from Algiers to Paris and then to Dublin. He was then intercepted by Gull investigators in Belfast.

Nigerians, who consistently comprise the biggest single nationality claiming asylum in Ireland, are also by far the largest single national group encountered in the operation........

[Riadach]

Is does beg the question, is there any point deporting non-eu criminals, if they are allowed to roam freely and return to another country and commit crimes again?

[dub006]

the fact that iit is an organised attack by nigerians on the State of Ireland means it is a form of terrorism.
They must be dealt with the way the government dealt with the IRA or how any government would deal with al quada.

we need to deport all nigerians from Ireland .
The vast majority of nigerians are a burden and a threat to this State.

[popper]

Is does beg the question, is there any point deporting non-eu criminals, if they are allowed to roam freely and return to another country and commit crimes again?

Would you rather they stay here and sell drugs to/mug/rape/defraud your mother/daughter/sister/wife?

Again to revert to my vermin analogy, better to have the cockroach in someone else's house than one's own. Only an idiot would differ surely?

[odie1kanobe]

The taking of fingerprints and dna samples from all Asylum seekers kills document forgeries very quickly as if you can be identified when and where you entered then its a good start.

UK will start taking fingerprints of no EU visitors within next 12 months.

[Riadach]

Is does beg the question, is there any point deporting non-eu criminals, if they are allowed to roam freely and return to another country and commit crimes again?

Would you rather they stay here and sell drugs to/mug/rape/defraud your mother/daughter/sister/wife?

Again to revert to my vermin analogy, better to have the cockroach in someone else's house than one's own. Only an idiot would differ surely?

I'd rather they were imprisoned and rehabilitated to be dreadfully honest. If they are subsequently deported, then I mightn't have too much difficulty. But if deportation occurs, without imprisonment or rehabilitation, I fail to see what good has been achieved.


I presume then, by your logic, that you think it is better for an Algerian to be raped than an Irish person, or better yet, it is better for an Algerian to be raped, than the person take up a place in an Irish prison?

[popper]

Is does beg the question, is there any point deporting non-eu criminals, if they are allowed to roam freely and return to another country and commit crimes again?

Would you rather they stay here and sell drugs to/mug/rape/defraud your mother/daughter/sister/wife?

Again to revert to my vermin analogy, better to have the cockroach in someone else's house than one's own. Only an idiot would differ surely?

I'd rather they were imprisoned and rehabilitated to be dreadfully honest. If they are subsequently deported, then I mightn't have too much difficulty. But if deportation occurs, without imprisonment or rehabilitation, I fail to see what good has been achieved.

It is not our responsibility to rehabilitate the scum of the world, no more than it is to provide them with a home and new victims.


Your reference to the Algerian rape victim is bizarre.

Would you prefer if an Algerian rapist comes here and perhaps rape one of your relations or friends? In the name of what exactly. Solidarity? Common humanity?

[Eirenua]

Illustrates what those of us who argued the system is being abused by overwhelmingly bogus asylum-seekers are correct

Your post will get you branded a racist by the do-gooders on this site. As for me I am applying for the job of SMBUTHATBTDP (Sink My Boot Up Their Hole As They Board The Deportation Plane).[/quote]

[FutureTaoiseach]

Your post will get you branded a racist by the do-gooders on this site. As for me I am applying for the job of SMBUTHATBTDP (Sink My Boot Up Their Hole As They Board The Deportation Plane).

Well I know I am not a racist I am simply reporting on facts. I am indifferent to the colour of the offenders' skin. I don't care if they are White or Black or Asian. I oppose breaking the law and that is the context in which I have posted this topic.

[Riadach]

Is does beg the question, is there any point deporting non-eu criminals, if they are allowed to roam freely and return to another country and commit crimes again?

Would you rather they stay here and sell drugs to/mug/rape/defraud your mother/daughter/sister/wife?

Again to revert to my vermin analogy, better to have the cockroach in someone else's house than one's own. Only an idiot would differ surely?

I'd rather they were imprisoned and rehabilitated to be dreadfully honest. If they are subsequently deported, then I mightn't have too much difficulty. But if deportation occurs, without imprisonment or rehabilitation, I fail to see what good has been achieved.

It is not our responsibility to rehabilitate the scum of the world, no more than it is to provide them with a home and new victims.

If no one else is, why not? If we have an opportunity to ease suffering, prevent crime, why should we turn it down? Everytime a rapist is deported from Ireland, another English deportee could be making his way here. If we rehabilitate them, and then maybe deport them, then surely the chances of recommittal of an offence have been reduced. I doubt you'd think it wise to let unrepentent criminals roam the streets of any country.