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    Labour calls for compulsory Irish exam to be ended

    The Labour Party is putting down a billtonight calling for the compulsory exam for legal practitioners to be ended and replaced with a voluntary system of recognising competence in the Irish language. The Competition Authority have already recommended the change.

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    it's about bloody time
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    when i read the title i thought it referred to the leaving cert exam; pity

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagel
    when i read the title i thought it referred to the leaving cert exam
    I knew that would happen!

    I agree with the policy (ie. Labour policy) and was disappointed to hear that Comhdháil Náisiúnta na Gaeilge are against it. I was not surprised that Conradh na Gaeilge are against it, of course.

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    I was hoping you meant the SCG*!
    Drat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darren Mac an Phríora
    Quote Originally Posted by bagel
    when i read the title i thought it referred to the leaving cert exam
    I knew that would happen!

    I agree with the policy (ie. Labour policy) and was disappointed to hear that Comhdháil Náisiúnta na Gaeilge are against it. I was not surprised that Conradh na Gaeilge are against it, of course.
    There is a duty on both those organisations to propose arrangements to guarantee that citizens can access justice through our first national language.

    The standard of the current solicitors' and barristers' exams is so low that it cannot honestly be said to further that constitutional imperative.

    And since the standard will not realistically be raised all of a sudden, it's about time we had a new method altogether, with no joke of a compulsory exam and instead use certification of those truly able to competently practice law through Irish.

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    Is it not good to have exams like this in order to find the job applicants who have real commitment to the position in question?

    If you go to all the bother of learning and studying Irish to a required level, you appreciate your position more and it leads to a better quality legal professional.
    Private profit for public gain!

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    I agree but we should be actively trying to improve incentives for the Irish language. We have to be careful as our identity is slipping away. I support the move, but I think it should be balanced by something poitive in the direction of helping Irish. What that is I dont know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ard-Taoiseach
    Is it not good to have exams like this in order to find the job applicants who have real commitment to the position in question?
    Well, you could try running that idea past the HR departments of Dell, Microsoft, Intel etc. It would be a real test of commitment for the applicants, but I don't think their HQs would appreciate it

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    Of course, it doesn't have a snowballs chance.......so I would be sceptical of the real motivation behind it.

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