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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynicist View Post
    Your selectivity of the truth is picking those minute details that support your desire to support a white-wash.
    . What whitewash ?
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    Anyone can die of a heart attack even if they are knifed or shot or strangled - the heart gives out in the end or is that a medical finding too far for a biased judge?
    . . The defence proved it was possible fr MollOy suffered a heart attack immediately prior to any physical altercation. They also proved it was possible the injuries to the head were caused by his fall to the ground consequent to that heart attac and his head hitting a sharp object like a stone hearth. Therefor the prosecution could never prove that any physical altercation was the actual cause of death. In such circumstances the trial judge has no option but to direct the jury as he did. The states case basically collapsed when confronted by that defence. You are blaming the judge for the states failure to adequately prosecute their case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by billm View Post
    The cause of death according to Fr Niall's Death Certificate is :-

    "Acute Brain swelling and sub-dural haemorrhage consistent with having sustained a serious injury to the head "
    You should add also that the injury to the brain was caused by a fall to the ground after a heart attack and the head striking a sharp object like a stone hearth. . That was the plausible explanation offered by the defence .
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    Its clear that Judge Roe should not have presided over this case. That imo was the greatest injustice and remains so to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Field Marshal View Post
    You should add also that the injury to the brain was caused by a fall to the ground after a heart attack and the head striking a sharp object like a stone hearth. . That was the plausible explanation offered by the defence .

    The humpty dumpty theory ?
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    There are other questions outside his immediate death.

    Fr Molloy was an Army chaplain and, after 5 years's service, would have been entitled to a gratuity: he was one week short of the 5 years when the Bishop of Elphin moved him elsewhere, a unprecedented action which lost him thousands. Why did he do this?

    Fr Molloy's will was sent to the Elphin diocese for safekeeping after his death but was "mislaid".

    Something smells there too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fgrep View Post
    Its clear that Judge Roe should not have presided over this case. That imo was the greatest injustice and remains so to this day.
    Why is it clear?

    Present your evidence to support this so called clarity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin Coir View Post
    The humpty dumpty theory ?
    Well you tell me then what was the immediate cause of Fr Niall Molloy,s death since your so smart.
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    When Fr Molloy went on overseas service he was required to make a will under army regulations. He was a priest of the Elphin diocese and was replaced by another priest in Athlone from the diocese of Elphin. The will was kept on file and when he left army service his will should have been returned to him personally.
    The will format used in the Defence Forces is a shortened special will called a soldiers and sailors will AFAIK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thady Quill View Post
    There are other questions outside his immediate death.

    Fr Molloy was an Army chaplain and, after 5 years's service, would have been entitled to a gratuity: he was one week short of the 5 years when the Bishop of Elphin moved him elsewhere, a unprecedented action which lost him thousands. Why did he do this?

    You claim Molloy was due thousands in a gratuity after 5 years army service?

    How many thousands?

    Back up this with actual figures rather than wooly dubious assertions

    Are you somehow insinuating the Bishop transferred Molloy to save the state having to pay out some gratuity?

    Utter nonsense.


    Quote Originally Posted by Thady Quill View Post
    Fr Molloy's will was sent to the Elphin diocese for safekeeping after his death but was "mislaid".

    Something smells there too.
    Says who?
    Whats your source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eoin Coir View Post
    The humpty dumpty theory ?
    Eoin, I had previous experience of this Field Marshal character on another thread and gave up any interchange with him as a bad job, a waste of time.There are a few posters beyond logic but,thankfully not many.
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