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    Quote Originally Posted by The OD View Post
    The only desire I am left with after watching hardcore porn is the desire to beat the male actors and producers about the face with a nail studded baseball bat for their hatred of women.
    oh my aren't you tolerant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariaMcN View Post
    Content on the internet needs to be regulated.
    Scary thought, the last form of truly free media being regulated.
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    I don't think enough parents know how to limit their youngters and young adults interactions on the internet.

    It's that simple, granted, it does take a little effort but it is possible to restrict these things, one just has to have the will.

    Parents know that the internet contains lots of porn, so it's their business to limit that availability in their homes and on their childrens mobile devices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EoinMag View Post
    I don't think enough parents know how to limit their youngters and young adults interactions on the internet.

    It's that simple, granted, it does take a little effort but it is possible to restrict these things, one just has to have the will.

    Parents know that the internet contains lots of porn, so it's their business to limit that availability in their homes and on their childrens mobile devices.
    To be honest, if I were a parent, I don't think I'd be actively seeking to deprive my 15 year old of some descent w*nk material. Life is tough as it is, leave him be.
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    to those against porn for what ever reason should think not of content but what porn has done
    There is a believe that porn or the adult industry has embarrassed and driven all new technology and pioneered some.

    The best example of this is the VCR.
    The adult industry took to it like a fish to water even though Hollywood held back.
    DVD and bluray are other examples
    The first adult movie came out only two years after the film was invented

    In the tech world, porn quietly leads the way - CNN.com
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    Yes. D'internets should be replaced with a big picture of the Sacred Heart bleeding all over Jesus. That would be ten times more healthy and loads of people would give up the fags as well.

    Law One- If there is demand there will be supply.

    Law Two- Attempts to cut supply does not reduce demand.

    Law Three- See Laws One and Two.

    Repeat endlessly until all public money is gone. Then legalise whatever it is you were trying to ban.

    Lovely day isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Disturbing figures show that calls to the national rape crisis helpline has increased by 20% in the past decade according to the latest figures released in a report by the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre:



    First-time calls to rape crisis centre up by 20% last year - The Irish Times - Thu, Sep 06, 2012

    Is O'Malley-Dunlop right about the link between hardcore porn and increases in reported sex crimes?

    The fact that reports of rape are up by 20% since 2003 does not mean that there are 20% more rapes annually. What is clear from research internationally is that many rapes go and have gone unreported. Since 2003 the issue of sexual violence towards the vulnerable has been front and centre in Irish social affairs.

    It would be amazing indeed in that time if there wasn't firstly a greater support network for those who suffer a rape attack now than there was ten years ago. It could just as easily be that there is more thought around seeing those who suffer a sexual attack as victims rather than this weird nonsense that used to exist in social stigma that they must have somehow 'contributed' to being targeted by an attacker. It could simply mean that there is a greater willingness among victims to report rape now over ten years ago.

    As for the ladies quoted who 'know' ..

    Frances Gardiner, chairwoman of the centre, described the statistics as “truly shocking”, while chief executive Ellen O’Malley-Dunlop said easier access to pornography was among the reasons why “these heinous crimes” were “escalating”.

    “We know from international research that the levels of violence escalate in societies during times of economic recession.

    “We also know that the easy access to hardcore pornography further fuels attitudes of objectification . . . and leads to unimaginable dehumanisation of both victims and perpetrators.”
    The first is a chicken and egg situation with an additional obfuscation on top. 'We know violence escalates in times of recession'. That is all violence I would say and not sexual violence. I find it hard to believe that someone loses their job through redundancy and decides that the only thing to do is go out and rape someone. Rob, perhaps. But rape? Something not quite detailed enough in this statement and it looks deliberate.

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    “We also know that the easy access to hardcore pornography further fuels attitudes of objectification . . . and leads to unimaginable dehumanisation of both victims and perpetrators.”
    That is a fairly breezy claim to knowledge- where is the research on that? Similarly, researchers have been trying to establish whether there is a link between violent imagery in film and violence in society for decades and have been, so far as I am aware, unable to do so.

    Either this lady is hiding a simply stunning piece of social research yet to be shared with the world in her handbag or she is presenting her perception as a fact.

    We've had enough of that in Ireland, thanks. And it never leads to anywhere useful but usually results in large amounts of public money being directed at supporting perceptions and not the actual facts.

    I'd really like to see what research these statements are based on.
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    You know it has gone to far when you walk down the street and view women as porn categories- Asian, BBW, Ebony, Milf, and so on. Or so a friend tells me.
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    Interesting also that there is the assumption throughout this blutter (new word I've just invented for a statement to the press without reference to any quotable research) that its only men who watch porn. I've had a look at the Rape Crisis Centre Network website and notice that the Committee seems to be all female.

    I also notice on scanning down the press releases for 2012 that there is a peculiar welcoming for the 'Apostolic Visitation' which floated on heavenly sandals to Ireland from Rome some time back to reassure the country it needn't feel guilty for its priests crimes as regards molestation, grooming and rape, bless their mad little heads. The press release has a subclause about victims of rape but it made me wonder whether there is some kind of Ruhama-meets-Sr Godzilla element to this organisation?

    I wonder how they'd react if it was pointed out to them that some women watch porn too- and I have yet to hear of a woman going off her head from watching 'Take That Do Dallas' or whatever and rampaging through the streets in search of a victim with a suitably fetching cap.

    Smell of a lot of assumption and perception around this lot. While I would not wish to be taken amiss and would praise the work of rape counsellors and supporters of victims of rape who try to help stitch back together broken lives I remain deeply suspicious of some social aspect organisations in Ireland and elsewhere and think they should be challenged regularly on their 'perceptions' and that those 'perceptions' should not be allowed to become convenient urban myths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonewolfe View Post
    I thought you were going to say "a nail studded dildo" there for a second. That'd feckin learn em.
    That'd do I guess. It's not that I'm a prude, far from it, but its hard to get aroused looking at a frightened young woman and some obvious ex-cons or gang foot soldiers treating them like a piece of meat. I've said it before, porn needs to be heavily regulated. Absolutely no-one with a criminal record, police checks on the producers so no criminal gangs being involved and so on. I think that there is nothing wrong with healthy human sexuality, but the majority of porn these days is simply woman-hating filth that would have you thinking all women like to be treated like dirt.
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