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    Knapaghbeg Knapaghbeg is offline

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    Do Prolifers want Irish Law to punish illegal abortion in Ireland severely or at all?

    I find it extraordinary that an Irish Court could levy a large fine or term of imprisonment on anyone who would carry out an illegal abortion in Ireland, or on anyone that would procure and abortion for someone else, or for themselves, when the Law of the Land permits Irish people to either procure abortion 60 miles from our shores or to perform or procure abortion on or for others 60 miles away.

    What range of punishment do Pro-lifers believe should be appropriate for:

    (1) Procuring an abortion for oneself

    (2) Procuring an abortion for someone else

    (3) Performing an abortion or assisting with the performance of an abortion?

    Currently under Irish Law it is lawful to give the names and addresses of abortion services. It is not lawful to make an appointment with an abortion service on behalf of the pregnant woman. This does not prevent doctors or others from giving medical records to the woman.

    Currently the fine for assisting someone to procure an abortion outside the State can run to a maximum of €1917 and a prosecution can only be brought with the permission of the DPP.

    Regulation of Information (Services Outside the State For Termination of Pregnancies) Act, 1995

    (The developmet of the internet has made an ass of the 1995 Act)

    Could Pro-lifers live with keeping abortion illegal but having no penalties for it in Ireland?


    Would such a move be such a big step from having a prohibition on abortion here but allowing travel from Ireland for abortion?
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    Knapaghbeg Knapaghbeg is offline

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    Parking on Double Yellow lines is illegal in Ireland but we still have a lot of it around as the penealty is not too steep.

    Surely this would be a reasonable accommodation for introducing abortion to Ireland to keep it illegal but to have no penalty at law for it?
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    Hitch 22 Hitch 22 is offline

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    I don't think pro-lifers have ever given this question any thought.

    Enjoy! Hilarious stuff!



    But I'm sure when they do give it some thought they will surely support execution for all women who "murder" their babies and long sentences for accessory to murder for doctors, nurses, parents, boyfriends, partners, husbands, siblings, relations and anyone else who helped them along the way. Vast prisons would of course have be built to house the thousands of women who have abortions every year, special courts devoted exclusively to these fast tracked trials, special gas chambers built to carry out mass executions and crematoriums to dispose of the murderers ashes too.

    You know it makes sense!
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    Start one decent thread instead of several ill-thought-out ones on a similar topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knapaghbeg View Post
    I find it extraordinary that an Irish Court could levy a large fine or term of imprisonment on anyone who would carry out an illegal abortion in Ireland, or on anyone that would procure and abortion for someone else, or for themselves, when the Law of the Land permits Irish people to either procure abortion 60 miles from our shores or to perform or procure abortion on or for others 60 miles away.

    What range of punishment do Pro-lifers believe should be appropriate for:

    (1) Procuring an abortion for oneself

    (2) Procuring an abortion for someone else

    (3) Performing an abortion or assisting with the performance of an abortion?

    Currently under Irish Law it is lawful to give the names and addresses of abortion services. It is not lawful to make an appointment with an abortion service on behalf of the pregnant woman. This does not prevent doctors or others from giving medical records to the woman.

    Currently the fine for assisting someone to procure an abortion outside the State can run to a maximum of €1917 and a prosecution can only be brought with the permission of the DPP.

    Regulation of Information (Services Outside the State For Termination of Pregnancies) Act, 1995

    Could Pro-lifers live with keeping abortion illegal but having no penalties for it in Ireland?


    Would such a move be such a big step from having a prohibition on abortion here but allowing travel fomr Ireland for abortion?
    Maybe you should attend to your entirely erroneously named thread that you started yesterday before delving into new ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knapaghbeg View Post
    Surely this would be a reasonable accommodation for introducing abortion to Ireland to keep it illegal but to have no penalty at law for it?
    Your numerous posts seem to have a common theme and it looks like you're not happy with your lot.
    You could be a story from Eastenders
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    Banning abortion amounts to the state ownership of womens' reproductive organs. The womb becomes state property and the women become slaves forced to have babies against their will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    Banning abortion amounts to the state ownership of womens' reproductive organs. The womb becomes state property and the women become slaves forced to have babies against their will.
    Get a Life!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knapaghbeg View Post
    I find it extraordinary that an Irish Court could levy a large fine or term of imprisonment on anyone who would carry out an illegal abortion in Ireland, or on anyone that would procure and abortion for someone else, or for themselves, when the Law of the Land permits Irish people to either procure abortion 60 miles from our shores or to perform or procure abortion on or for others 60 miles away.

    What range of punishment do Pro-lifers believe should be appropriate for:

    (1) Procuring an abortion for oneself

    (2) Procuring an abortion for someone else

    (3) Performing an abortion or assisting with the performance of an abortion?

    Currently under Irish Law it is lawful to give the names and addresses of abortion services. It is not lawful to make an appointment with an abortion service on behalf of the pregnant woman. This does not prevent doctors or others from giving medical records to the woman.

    Currently the fine for assisting someone to procure an abortion outside the State can run to a maximum of €1917 and a prosecution can only be brought with the permission of the DPP.

    Regulation of Information (Services Outside the State For Termination of Pregnancies) Act, 1995

    Could Pro-lifers live with keeping abortion illegal but having no penalties for it in Ireland?


    Would such a move be such a big step from having a prohibition on abortion here but allowing travel fomr Ireland for abortion?
    What kind of bullshyte is that? Would you allow people to kill others if it were legal in another jurisdiction? That's the kind of logic that you have there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitch 22 View Post
    I don't think pro-lifers have ever given this question any thought.

    Enjoy! Hilarious stuff!



    But I'm sure when they do give it some thought they will surely support execution for all women who "murder" their babies and long sentences for accessory to murder for doctors, nurses, parents, boyfriends, partners, husbands, siblings, relations and anyone else who helped them along the way. Vast prisons would of course have be built to house the thousands of women who have abortions every year, special courts devoted exclusively to these fast tracked trials, special gas chambers built to carry out mass executions and crematoriums to dispose of the murderers ashes too.

    You know it makes sense!
    Oh yeah, some American Fundamentalist is really representative of Pro-lifers as a whole.
    FAIL.
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