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Thread: Garda Ombudsman to investigate Terence Wheelock's death

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    No matter whay way you look at it this is a sad case where someone took their own life and it highlighted procedural problems relating to custody.

    Taking the string out of tracksuit bottoms while maybe the thing to do does effectively destroy them which held person would protest about and probably rightly.

    The specific training and role of Custody Sargeants who have the power to request Doctors or Psychiatrist to examine the mental stability of persons arrested needs to be improved and the greater use as highlighted by Garda Commissioner of CCTV to protect both prisoner and garda needs to continue.

    Family will never accept anything other than someone else is at fault which is sadly the norm in cases of suicide and will forever seek reasons thinking the "If Only I had done X he or she would still be alive".

    There is no winner or loser here.

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    The family's stance is that he didn't hang himself. If he did the countless other bruises and injuries are inexplicable. Maybe he tried to bate himself to death first.
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    You'd want to be on something stronger than what you'd get from a headshop to believe that the indymedia statement came from a guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket View Post
    You'd want to be on something stronger than what you'd get from a headshop to believe that the indymedia statement came from a guard.
    Agree

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    Wouldn't believe it either

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    Of course if the inquiry had found the other way the report would be completely accepted by those who now question it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackryan View Post
    Of course if the inquiry had found the other way the report would be completely accepted by those who now question it!
    Oh ya big Cynic..............

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    This is the best people are going to get. An independent investigation by an independent body. They found the was absolutely no evidence to suggest there was hand act or part by members of the Gardai. There were procedural problems relating to cells and custody regulations which, one presumes, will be dealt with.

    Unfortunately all the evidence does suggest that the poor man took his own life. Nobody is a winner in those circumstances, especially the family.
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    Trevor Wheelock case

    I wondered what people thought of the Trevor Wheelock outcome. I am not too familiar with the case but know the basics.Is it a whitewash?

    Is there a thread on this?I cannot find one. Edit OOPS there is, sorry, can this be deleted?

    http://www.politics.ie/justice/19151...cks-death.html
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    Three things that I am surprised that nobody in the media has picked up on about this case

    1. Marie Cassidy stated in the coroners court that there was no evidence of bruising on Mr Wheelocks body so he wasn't abused by the Gardai (she examined him 3 months after he was admitted to hospital).

    2. The family had to take a high court case to get his clothes back as the Gardai would not release them, why?

    3. Why would the Commissioner give a damn what the ombudsman's office says

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