Father tells court he is 'sick' of son's behaviour

[bagel]

People are sometimes very quick to jump in judgement. I've done so myself.
However, in this instance, it appears the pup is out of control and has his parents hearts broken.
How many times have we thought that parents must be blackguards for rearing problem children?
The amount of youths from decent families i've seen go bad in recent times is frightening.
Parents did everything possible for them but the teens still turned into scumbags.
We are becoming another UK and we seem powerless to do anything about it.
Maybe bring back the birch?

.....he told Judge Smyth that his son would not abide by bail conditions.
From the back of the courtroom he said: "He is not listening to me at all. I am sick of this, he is gone for two or three days, and does not come back, does not answer his phone, I think he is on drink or drugs.
"If he gets out it will be the same thing all over again," he also said, adding: "I am sick of it".

Link:Father tells court he is 'sick' of son's behaviour | Breaking News - eircom.net

[RepublicOfLuas]

That brings up the age old question. Are people born arséholes? I think some people are.

[True Republican]

the industrial schools were vile institutions run by very vile people but it can't be disputed that the fear of been sent to one of these places kept the crime rate down in a number of working class areas, i'm certainly not advocating the return of these institutions but something drastic needs to be done to curb some out of control teens. Parents are far too soft on their kids these days.

[bagel]

the industrial schools were vile institutions run by very vile people but it can't be disputed that the fear of been sent to one of these places kept the crime rate down in a number of working class areas, i'm certainly not advocating the return of these institutions but something drastic needs to be done to curb some out of control teens. Parents are far too soft on their kids these days.

I agree, something drastic needs to be done now, before its too late.

[Ulster-Lad]

Yet there is talk of a ban on slapping children. As I have stated previously, the government needs to take responsibility for what it is creating in their vision of the nanny state. If children can not or are not disciplined and nurtured at home then this is what you get.

[Boggle]

the industrial schools were vile institutions run by very vile people but it can't be disputed that the fear of been sent to one of these places kept the crime rate down in a number of working class areas, i'm certainly not advocating the return of these institutions but something drastic needs to be done to curb some out of control teens. Parents are far too soft on their kids these days.

Would there be a call for one or two military type boarding schools? Obviously the threat of getting sent there would be a major deterrent and safeguards would have to be put in place to protect the welfare of the children/teenagers.

[TARZAN]

I would be in favour of putting this guy on a remote island with no contact with civilisation for a few months. Give him enough food to survive but absolutely no means of contact with the outside world. He would soon change his ways if told that if he appeared in court again his punishment would be the same.

[an modh coinniolach]

Would there be a call for one or two military type boarding schools? Obviously the threat of getting sent there would be a major deterrent and safeguards would have to be put in place to protect the welfare of the children/teenagers.

There is an argument that claims that such institutions just produces better trained criminals so there would have to be some element of rehabilitation involved.

Personally, I'm all for some form of national service, not necessarily military, for all 18-19 year olds.

[Aindriu]

"That brings up the age old question. Are people born arséholes? I think some people are." Nature or nurture? I think you are partly right but remember that we inherit 11 pairs of genes from each parent so your theory has to presuppose that one or both parents are also arséholes.

[Boggle]

There is an argument that claims that such institutions just produces better trained criminals so there would have to be some element of rehabilitation involved.

That could be true, though it''s not an argument I have heard.

What I do know is that removing or the threat of removing the few from the normal school system would have a positive effect on the classroom and it would benefit everyone else.
However, it is possible that the costs would outweigh the benefits as you say.